Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Gang,

I chanced on those excellent and crisp shots of two different Ju 88's, taken by members of 95 BG somewhere in Southern Italy and am now in discussion with the owner of those pictures:

http://www.pixpast.com/viewtopic.php...p=13671#p13671

I thought the first machine could be a KG 77 plane found at Catania but I'm not so sure anymore. Any help as to the units and location for both machines would be warmly appreciated.

Thanks
Marc

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

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Ah darn;

Ok I'm uploading the pictures here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Thanks for your thoughts
Marc

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Most probably these are wrecks abandoned in Foggia airdrome(s) area. To see the unit I should check the FIU reports, which I've not at hand now.

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Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Grazie mille, Ferdinando!
Your informations are, as always, much appreciated

Jim,
Sorry, my quota of pics in this forum is fully used up. As they are in threads which are still quite consulted, I do feel I should leave them as is... sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Possibly photos of three wrecks,

one is Ju 88 A-4/trop W.Nr. 300230 PI+SX of I/KG 76 found ´shot up´ Foggia Sattelite No.3 Airfield in Italy, autumn 1943. Several images of this have appeared on the internet over the years, a colour shot too.

the one coded +LP ? not seen before, thanks

regards
ed

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

I am able to confirm the location. The 3Z+LP was a plane of KG 77 whose apparent W.Nr. was reported as 8842(?). It too was among the 65+ wrecks of Ju 88s left on Foggia Satellite n.3 airfield. Another 35+ were found at Foggia Satellite n.1...

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Ed, Ferdinando,

Many many thanks! You sure make my day! What a staggering amount of leftover Ju 88 on those two fields... Why so? No fuel, LMF?

Thanks again for your time and your answers
Marc

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Why? Foggia airfields was major operating base for Luftwaffe in summer 1943. Some had accidents there (before), others had been damaged etc.. Likely many were cannibalised for spares, as many were bare hulks or wrecks when captured. Many were "blown up" to prevent capture. I guess the speed area was captured by Allies, no time to clear or salvage wrecks, or repair damaged aircraft. Some even apparently had little damage, such as Ju 88 A-4 300227 PI+SU was repaired by Allies and taken to USA.

(088)8842 Ju 88 A-4 had 10% accident "Piacensa" 29.06.43 with II/KG 77, but this number is also reported along with thirteen I/KG 76 aircraft "blown up" at Foggia on 20.09.43, so in this case British and Luftwaffe lists agree.

But there are problems in researching all these aircraft left behind: Some aircraft numbers listed by British do not show in 6 Abt. losses lists, and others listed in 6 Abt. losses lists do not show in British list, but the British list many wrecks without numbers. But showing (us) photos like posted here helps much in indentifying some of these, and makes history of this more complete. Thank you Marc.

regards
ed

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Ed,

Many thanks for your thorough explanation; I was really surprised too learn how many planes were thus discarded. It seems at first odd to have such quantities left over.
As for the difficulties identifying hulks, we're on the same line: I have the same issues with late war Bf 109's:-))

And you're most welcome for the pictures. The real credit for them goes to Paul alias Uscapturephoto, on Pixpast forum.
Cheers
Marc

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Some more pics of Foggia satellite airfield no 3, thanks to the courtesy of Paul, Uscapturephoto, Pixpast Forum, posted today for further ID:
http://www.pixpast.com/viewtopic.php...p=13703#p13703

Ju 88 "??+FK""
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Ju 88
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Ju 88 tail
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Cheers
Marc

PS: I upload them on my Flickr account only in order to facilitate access as one has to be registered to Pixpast to view the items.

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

I will look for +FK, second appears another shot of PI+SX, third no way to ID.

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Ju 88 xx+FK probably is this (looted condition seems fitting), unless there was other with same code.

(088)822578 Ju 88 A-4 Stab./KG 76 (Luftflotte 2)
OPS (F) damaged (20% Er) in <enemy> low-flying attack at Torturella 18.09.1943
´2578 Ju 88 A-4 "F1+FK" I/KG 76 (Luftflotte 2)
Blown up by own German troops (100%) at Foggia <Torturella> Airfield [Italy] 20.09.1943
Captured as ´looted´ at Foggia Sattelite No.3 Airfield, Italy, autumn 1943
(RAF report)

regards
ed

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Many many thanks Ed, for your swift and precise answer. Much appreciated, also by the owner of the pics!

Cheers
Marc

Re: Fine Ju 88's wreck pictures, Italy 1943 - 1944.
 

Some more pics from Paul, but alas, no Ju 88!
http://www.pixpast.com/viewtopic.php...p=13707#p13707

This time we have Bf 109 F "NV+I?" (maybe "Z" for the last letter), unsure if this is Foggia Turturella.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Hs 129 B W.Nr. 0347, location unsure, Italy, 1943.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Usual disclaimer.

Cheers
Marc