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Nibele 14th September 2012 15:19

Monte Amiata, Italy
 
During the II WW Monte Amiata, south Tuscany, was hit several time by allied bombers, and many airplanes belly landed or crashed there. Is there any book or witness about these casualities? Few days ago I was able to find a crash site of a german airplane, here two parts of the many I was able to collect

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC_9810.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC_9806.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC_9797.jpg
Regards, Andrea

Nibele 14th September 2012 21:58

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
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I add a better image of the code in the aluminum piece

edNorth 15th September 2012 04:26

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
Ju 88 (Bomber/Recce): Placard from jettisonable rack under wings.
Number 8-88.653-020 belonged to "B-1 Ringkühler-Verkleidung "

3115.4 is type of Aluminum (the material it is made of)

Nibele 16th September 2012 00:44

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
Thank you for explaining the code. I'll go back soon to look for more info and parts and I hope to get info on this wreck...and of another german bomber not far...
Do you have any idea where there is the chance to find out casualities in this area?
Regards, Andrea

Nibele 25th October 2012 11:53

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
Today I got info about this wreck. The flight took off from ampugnano airport near Siena, Flying low altitude to avoid enemies. And witness say thet it was the 10th of April 1944, with 5 people loss.
Is possible to confirm this event?
Thanks in advance
Andrea

John Beaman 25th October 2012 16:43

possibles
 
Although Anzio is a long way from Tuscany.......................................

Ju 88A-4, 550397, Bialucha, Fhj.Fw. Hans, 1.LG 1, L1+IH, 10-Apr-44, MIA with crew due to Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter during Mineneinsatz., Italien, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.520, Raum Anzio1, 00%, FB Fw. Georg Hünerberg, Bf Gefr. August Koch & Bs Ogefr. Herbert Wosseng

Ju 88A-4, 140252, Körbel, Uffz. Günther, 1.LG 1, L1+HH, 10-Apr-44, MIA with crew due to Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter during Mineneinsatz., Dup WNr. with Becker also lost on 12-Apr., Italien, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.520, Raum Anzio, 100%, FB Ogefr. Werner Hoffmann, Uffz. Heinrich Spork & Bs Gefr. Friedel Haselmeyer

Nibele 28th October 2012 19:30

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
Thank you for the important info...I was able to find many other pieces of the airplane, and if appreciated, I can publish them here.
Regards, Andrea

Matti Salonen 28th October 2012 20:24

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
I have for Becker 300620.

Matti

Nibele 28th October 2012 20:32

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
Whad does it mean Matti?
here an picture of an instrument..
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...agine11920.jpg
and a lot of pieces with codes...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...agine11916.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...agine11901.jpg
Regards..Andrea

Matti Salonen 28th October 2012 21:43

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
300620 is WNr. for Becker's Ju 88, which was lost on April 12, 1944. See John Beaman's reply.

Matti

Nibele 30th November 2013 21:13

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
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As an update I add this piece, probably steel-iron, with these letters-numbers on...
Do these new infoes add something...?
Thank you in advance
Andrea

KrisJG3 30th November 2013 21:33

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
This pice I think is from Ju 88 :) , could You attache biger view of full detail ?

I see more yours details here:
http://www.archeologidellaria.org/in...p?topic=2105.0

This one looks interested with "yellow paintig":
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC_9798.jpg

and zip from jacket ? :
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...agine11937.jpg

Nibele 30th November 2013 21:52

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
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Hi..yes..I add the pics already published in Archeologi dell'aria..but the piece per se is not really significant IMHO

Nibele 17th July 2015 17:59

Re: Monte Amiata, Italy
 
Hi friends
Finally it seems that one of the 2 wrecks in Monte Amiata got an answer...Thanks to Andrea Raccagni and Elena Zauli, 2 skilled researcher, we know the names of the crew and the WN of the Ju 88 that crashed during the night close to the top of the mountain:
1. November 1943 5./KG 30, Ju 88 A-4 550424 4D+FN 100% reason unknown,
Abbadia-San-Salvatore-Castel-del-Piano (Monte Amiata) Toscana/Italy
Uffz. Uffz. Hans Pschibul KIA Uffz. Alfons Wirket KIA (B) Gefr. Michael Lindner KIA (Bf) Uffz. Martin Klotz KIA (Bs) Target was Naples Harbor, Takeoff was Villafranca airfield
Now we can definitely say where they ended their last flight.
Still missing news for the other wreck in Monte Amiata, reported to be happened in the day after easter in april 1944...


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