A unique Fw 190 D-9 shot!
 

Hi gang,

I just stumbled on a quite unique picture showing three Fw 190 D-9' revving up their engines prior to taxying, whilst fourth is parked behind next to a farm. This wintery scene is quite unique among the handful operational shots of D-9's...
http://modelforum.cz/download/file.p...8605&mode=view
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Westfron...ht_1712wt_1370

Courtesy of Mirek glock Riha, modelforum.cz, 30 September 2012.
No tactical sign or RV bands to be seen... I wonder which unit the belonged to.

Cheers
Marc

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next to a farm. ,,,??

A Hall/Hangar in fact , probably that could give us the place ???

Rémi

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Interesting that the first 190 has a larger Hakenkreuz with a smaller filled in Balkenkreuz, as compared to the others with just white outline larger BalkenKreuz and smaller Hakenkreuz. White or Yellow rudder too perhaps?

Thanks for posting this!

Kind regards.

A unique Fw 190 D-9 shot!
 

Hi guys

Marc, very nice photograph that you found and thanks for bringing it to our attention. Oberst, if I am not mistaken the smaller Balkankreuz is evidence of this machine being a Fieseler built example of the 600 through 601 werknummer block. I can think of III./JG 54 and IV./JG 3 which did not use Gruppe tactical markings on their Doras...

Horrido!

Leo

Re: A unique Fw 190 D-9 shot!
 

Yes, III./JG 54 and IV./JG 3 do come to mind.


Just a thought.. Delivery flight perhaps?

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You're all welcome!

Very interesting, Oberst and Leo; this Balkenkreuz diversity does give a clue after all... Checking back on Michael Holms site we have:

- for III./JG 54, the possible airfields are Varrelbusch or Handrup/Fürstenau.
- for IV/JG 3, the possible airfields are Störmede, Gütersloh, Stargard or Prenzlau.

Still quite a selection to choose from.

Cheers
Marc

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Hey there,
in the close-up on the original ebay site you can see a II. Gruppe-bar on all three Doras in the foreground..

Regards,
Christian

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My best guess is that they belonged to 7. /JG 26 and was photographed during autumn 1944 before the black and white bands was painted on in early 1945.
I think there is a photo in Urbankes book of a Fieseler built Dora from 7. /JG 26 with this type of very light (brown) color on the II Gruppe bar.

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I'll send Axel the link to see what he thinks.

Mark

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If you encrease the detailshot on your screen, a yellow/brown 5 is possibly faintly visible...

Best regards,

Philippe

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I thought so to, possibly a 5 or a 3.
If it's not 7. /JG 26, the only other option is II. / JG 6 I think, but they had yellow numbers with black border.

Re: A unique Fw 190 D-9 shot!
 

Christian, Micke D, Philippe,

Great new infos there. If 7./JG 26, then we're looking at Nordhorn Klausheide airfield, that is if the pic is taken after 22 November 1944.

Cheers
Marc

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What about II. /JG 2, before the yellow/white/yellow bands were painted on? Does anyone know when JG 2 painted them on?

I'm not sure about this but I think I have read somewhere that the smaller cylindrical type of fuel tank wasn't used much on the eastern front.

If this is correct, and the photo is taken in late 1944, I think that 7. /JG 26 or II. /JG 2 is the most likely candidates.
If it is 7. /JG 26 it could also be taken at Reinsehlen where they took on the Fw 190D-9.

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Initial GFW production batch D-9 equipped flat 122 type canopy, such as 600150, and several other samples with unknown W.Nr.
Considering monthly GFW production (1:Oct.44, 40:Nov.44, 105: Dec.44, 34 Jan.45, from the SAF4) 600150 probably completed in late Nov.44.
The GFW bird on the front line seems like equipping blown 1025 type canopy, almost likely completed in very late Nov. or Dec.44.

Therefore, this photograph was taken in mid or late Dec.44, I suppose.
If the photograph was taken in autumn, both types of canopies were applied since initial GFW production.

Re: A unique Fw 190 D-9 shot!
 

Dear Gents.

this picture went over the ebay-desk into new hands for no less than 1.531,00 Euros. My goodness :confused:

Cheerio and welcome to a lunatic world
Norbert