First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Fortress Mk. I AN523/D (P/O Sturmey) was badly shot up by Bf 109s and Bf 110s over the North Sea, on 16 August 1941. Having crashed on landing, it is the first B-17 destroyed by the Luftwaffe ever.
Can anyone shed light on the German units that took part in the interception?

Thanks in advance.

Chris

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Hi,
According to "B-17 Master Log" AN523/40-2055 was damaged over Brest, not North Sea; Brest perfectly matched with claim of 1./JG 2 pilot, StFw Erwin Kley.

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Hmm! My mistake.
Yes, it does match. Excellent.
Thanks.

Chris

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Gizmo is right-WP-D was shot up by Kley (8th kill) and crash-landed back at Roborough. I have a photo of him if any use

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

No, AN523 WP-D 40-2056 definitely lost 16/08/41
Intercepted by five Bf109s at 32,000 ft over Brest, received 26 separate attacks over 23 minutes and the enemy fire punctured one fuel tank, the bomb doors were thrown open, flaps dropped, the trim tab was shot away, the tail wheel hung half down and an aileron and the rudder were badly damaged. Crash landed Plymouth (Roborough) on return, overshot the end of the runway without brakes and caught fire.

AN525 WP-D lost 8th September 41 along with two others going to Oslo

Where does bird-dog come from?

Regards

Martin

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Bird dog was very first B17 lost 1941 Norway to -2 Tonis
Sorry D-Dog .my mistake..

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

I think we have a difference in definitions. The Oslo raid saw the first B-17 shot down. The Brest raid saw the first lost as a result of enemy action, but not shot down as such.

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Hi, I have a few letters from Lt. Jacobi to launch on September 8, 1941, photos of the downed AT 525, letter of the B 17 pilot Mick Wood from Australia, and the battle report of Lt. Jacobi and Lt. Steinicke etc. are letters of 1975 ! Browse photos JG 2 from Sept. 1944th Greetings Peglar

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

What is AT 525?

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Sorry - AN 525 !

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Interesting thread. I have the Soldbuch to Lt. Alfred Jakobi. Here is a link to a few photos of the aircraft wreckage.

http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/bygland.html

I also have a group to Oblt. Robert Müller who also shot down a B-17 on 8.9.1941.

08.09.41 Lt. Robert Müller 2/JG 77 B-17 SW Stavanger

However I can not find a reference to it on the internet currently....seem to think I got this info from Eric Mombeek's book.

Regards,
Ian

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Hello,
detailed descriptions of the Fortresses over Norway are in my book, Die Jäger der Graf Zeppelin, published by myself in 2002.
This includes Jakobi's combat report and some comments from Mick Wood.
All this expanded from the original Sea Eagles book.

Francis

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Hello, do you mean this Report from Lt Jakobi ?

Greetings Peglar

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

Hello there Gentlemen,

does anybody know how many of Alfred Jakobi's claim were scored in the Bf109T ?

Cheers,

Michael

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

I suggest you start a separate posting for this

Re: First Fortress Mk. I shot up (August 41)
 

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...729#post251729
Cheers,

Michael