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Richard Mills 16th November 2012 00:08

Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Can anyone share the details surrounding the loss of Feldwebel Georg Spring flying a Fw-190 on 26-06-1944 ?

I am in particular trying to ascertain his unit, aircraft details and in fact anything additional at all surrounding the event of his demise.

As always, any help whatsoever will be very well received indeed.

Regards Richard.

Andrew Arthy 16th November 2012 02:34

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Hi Richard,

Please see: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...t=Georg+Spring

And also: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...t=Georg+Spring

No doubt Matti can add more!

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.facebook.com/airwarpublications

Matti Salonen 16th November 2012 08:34

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
In the first thread Chris has said all that can be found in NVM, except location, which was northeast from Rudki (Pl.Qu. 1186).

Matti

Richard Mills 16th November 2012 21:47

Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Andrew and Matti

Thank you very much indeed for your help.

Might I ask whether the NVM recorded the unit with which Spring was flying when he died?

As 4./StG77 became 7./SG11 equipped with Fw-190 machines, I am hoping from a research perspective that Spring was indeed flying with 7./SG11.

Any further pointers will be very well received indeed.

Regards Richard.

Andrew Arthy 17th November 2012 00:34

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Hi Richard,

Some time ago I downloaded copies of many of Spring's documents and photographs from the Wehrmacht Awards Forum (I can email them to you if you don't already have them). A document related to his death is signed by the Kommandeur, Henze, who led the I. Gruppe of Schlachtgeschwader 77. The document mentioned that he was killed in a crash shortly before landing, cause unknown, after completing a bombing training mission in an FW 190. This makes sense given that the Gruppe was converting to the FW 190 in June 1944.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.facebook.com/airwarpublications

Matti Salonen 17th November 2012 08:26

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
According to my notes, NVM says 1./SG 77.

Matti

Chris Goss 17th November 2012 08:48

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
I seem to remember that Tim Oliver had these documents & asked me to find out more about Spring's demise

Richard Mills 18th November 2012 22:32

Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Gents

Many thanks indeed for your replies.

I am in the process of purchasing the document group of Georg Spring (the postman is due to deliver tomorrow as it happens!) and just wanted to do a small amount of ground work on his aircraft and unit prior to researching in more depth.

As Andrew rightly stated, a document is present (dated 06-July-44)relating to Spring's death, signed by Henze as Gruppenkommandeur I./SG77, but bears the stamp of I./St.G77.

As I understand it, I./SG77 was formed by the re-designation of I./St.G77 on 18-October-43.

As the last dated document for Spring is with the Einsatzstaffel/St.G77 and is dated 04-October-43 (all documents prior to this are for 4./St.G77) this leads me to think (although I may well be wrong on this) that Spring transferred to I./St.G77 before the unit was re-designated as I./SG77.

If anyone can add any thoughts to this, I would be very grateful indeed.

Regards Richard.

Chris Goss 19th November 2012 00:14

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Good luck with the further 'in depth research' but it would appear to me that the seller should make sure you have what is available already

Richard Mills 19th November 2012 23:21

Loss of Fw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 157949)
Good luck with the further 'in depth research' but it would appear to me that the seller should make sure you have what is available already

Chris, I have sent you an e-mail concerning this document set.

By 'in depth research' I meant piecing together and writing a research piece on this man, incorporating all available published information and the info posted here on this forum. In reality, I fo not think I will ever be able to nail down the dates of his movements in the last year of his life unless his Flugbuch, Soldbuch or Wehrpass surface. I will go simply on the concrete dates and units evident on his documents as the primary source.

Interestingly, the document set did indeed arrive today and it also contained a very nice portrait photo of Wilhelm Spring, brother of Georg Spring and also a Luftwaffe pilot. The reverse of the photo indicates his demise on 22-09-42 in Russia. Is anyone able to pass on any details of the aircraft and unit? As always, any help will be very gratefully received indeed.

Regards Richard.

Matti Salonen 20th November 2012 07:29

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
No info in my database. I suspect, that he was killed on ground and not in an aircraft crash.

Matti

Richard Mills 22nd November 2012 20:29

Loss of Fw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Matti, thank you very much indeed for taking the time to search your files on this matter.

However, I have to own up to a schoolboy error here in that I misunderstood the caption on the rear of the photo, in reality it was a dedication to his brother, and not in rememberance of him.

Thanks again for your help.

Regards Richard.

Matti Salonen 23rd November 2012 07:51

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Never mind. It was only a couple of minutes job. My computer did all the work.

Matti

Andrew Arthy 23rd November 2012 12:33

Re: Loss of Ofw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Hi Richard,

I was just going through some photos I've downloaded from eBay when I came across one that was captioned as follows:

"Fw. Spring kommt v. flug zurück
Am 27. Juni tödlich abgestürzt.
Reichshof!
1944"

Not sure if you received this photograph with the document set. It shows an FW 190 marked 'Black W + -', with Fw. Spring standing in front of it.

All the best,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.facebook.com/airwarpublications

Richard Mills 23rd November 2012 17:05

Loss of Fw. Georg Spring 26-06-1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Arthy (Post 158155)
Hi Richard, I was just going through some photos I've downloaded from eBay when I came across one that was captioned as follows:

"Fw. Spring kommt v. flug zurück
Am 27. Juni tödlich abgestürzt.
Reichshof!
1944"

Not sure if you received this photograph with the document set. It shows an FW 190 marked 'Black W + -', with Fw. Spring standing in front of it.

All the best, Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.facebook.com/airwarpublications

Andrew

I have not received the image you have mentioned however, I would be very interested indeed in seeing it! Was it just a single example or part of a grouping?

Might you able to post the image here or even e-mail it to me at all?

Regards Richard.


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