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Nick Hector 18th December 2012 00:00

Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
In this instance, did Ademeit shoot down Naval Kapitan Mikhail Yakovlevich Vasilev HSU, OL 2 x ORB and OPW 1st Class of 4 GIAP-KBF who was KIA?

Nokose 18th December 2012 04:53

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Adameit claimed a Yak-1 at 18:42 at Leningrad. The 4 GIAP KBF were I believe flying La-5 at that time and Vasil'ev was lost over the Gulf of Finland and I haven't found a mission time. It is possible that he fell to one of the Finnish pilots of the 34th squadron who claimed La-5 on that day

Nick Hector 19th December 2012 04:34

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Thanks, Nokose. For the record, I may have read it wrong but the www.allace.ru website seemed to be pointing toward 4 GIAP-KBF still using LaGG-3s until late in 1942.... Would love to know what the case really was.

Nokose 19th December 2012 08:48

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Nick, try the website " сталинские соколы " between the two sometimes you can get the answer but not always.

Nick Hector 19th December 2012 10:32

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Hi Nokose,

I just copy + pasted your reference "сталинские соколы" into my browser's adress line and all it did was cause google to bring up a whole stack of references, the first of which was a youtube clip, the next was a website about Stalin.

Could you please provide the correct URL?

With thanks
Nick

Nokose 19th December 2012 10:41

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Try www.hranitels.ru .

Nick Hector 20th December 2012 05:06

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Thanks again, Nokose.

This time, one more question: which part of the site do I search on? i.e. which button on the homepage should I click on to start....?

Sorry, but Russian is very much my third language....

Russell 20th December 2012 06:09

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Hello Nick,

Right click on the page and it should open the translation program, among other things. Click on it -these days they are very good.

Cheers

Russell

Nokose 20th December 2012 07:48

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
To the left click полки ввс 1941-45.

Nick Hector 20th December 2012 10:06

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Thanks Russell, that was a new one on me....

Nokose - is there any info on the website regarding casualties and who shot down whom? I have been poking around and have found very little of that kind of info...

Nick

Nokose 20th December 2012 19:55

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Nick, it's just a good site that I use in helping establish what aircraft might be in which IAP. Nothing that I know of for air combat history. Your best way of finding that out is through Russian books and magzines (not so much Soviet era). Don't expect all the Russian websites to have correct information (even Russians complaint about false information on the web).

Nick Hector 21st December 2012 04:56

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
A very good point, Nokose. In any case, it IS a very good website and well worth a look.

Nick

Martti Kujansuu 22nd December 2012 11:23

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokose (Post 159405)
It is possible that he fell to one of the Finnish pilots of the 34th squadron who claimed La-5 on that day

Lentolaivue 34 was not active until March 1943 and non of the Finnish fighter squadrons operating at the Gulf of Finland claimed an enemy plane on 5 May 1942. However they did claim several of them a year later!

Nokose 22nd December 2012 15:24

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Martti, I should have added the correct date on my post. It was the 4May43.

Nick Hector 22nd December 2012 16:18

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
Whoa... Now I am confused again: was Naval Kapitan Mikhail Yakovlevich Vasilev really shot down on 5.5.42 or do I have the date of his loss falsely recorded somehow?

Nokose 22nd December 2012 18:35

Re: Horst Adameit's victory 5.5.42
 
O4 May 1943 is listed on www.allaces.ru and the official notice in the OBD.


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