Looking for VVS airfields info
 

Hello all, can someone please direct me to an online resource or a book where VVS activity is covered in Romania from 1944-1945 ?

Thanks in advance

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In Russian, Romanian, German or English?

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I don't know Russian so any other option would be great, i think i got Romanian covered though.

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No books. Just the original Fremde Luftwaffen Ost records at BA-MA Freiburg and on microfilm in RG 242/T-321 at NARA WashDC. Lots of stuff on the VVS in Romania Aug 44 - Apr 45, but it badly scattered over many folders and files. You would have to search through a great deal of material to find the information on Romania.

I have seen this material so I know it exists. There is OOB on VVS forces in Romania, signals intercepts and information from POW interrogations of Soviet air crew who had been stationed in Romania and were later shot down over Hungary, Czechoslovakia, etc. There is quite a bit of it but very scattered.

L.

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Many thanks Larry, at least i know where to look at directly, when i'll have the financial means i'll surely try to get hold of them.

The content there seems to be top-notch..!

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Just a quick question Larry, are these the correct finding aids ?
http://maparchive.ru/nara-doc/luftwaffe/T321A.pdf
http://maparchive.ru/nara-doc/luftwaffe/T321B.pdf

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Everything is in the T-321B listing. You should take a look at all of the Lufwaffenführungsstab Ic and Ic/FLO files in the following rolls:

80 - 97
121 - 125
262 - 274

Everything of interest is in those rolls. Will it give you day-by-day details on what every VVS command, air and ground unit in Romania was doing from 19 Aug 44 to 8 May 45? No, but you will find a lot of excellent information not available elsewhere, except maybe in the Russian military archives in Podolsk, outside of Moscow.

L.

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Many thanks indeed Larry, every little bit of info from there will be most helpful for me. And indeed i'm sure they're pretty much impossible to get from other places.

I just went through the guide...the info there is STUNNING !

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Hi muggs_ro (Dan, perhaps?),

I am hoping to contact you by resurrecting this nearly 2 year old thread. As one of the most renown and respected authorities on the AAR duringh World War II, can you recommend books or websites that provide the wartime bases for each unit and the dates each was based or stationed at a particular airfield? I know about the website www.worldwar2.ro, which gives me this information for the AAR fighter units, but not for the AAR bomber, reconnaissance and other formations. Any help would be appreciated!

Larry deZ.

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Some losses, a few on actual airfields:
(Unit, Type and S/N of plane, Date of loss, Area, Pilot)

17 BA, 244 БАД, 260 БАП, A-20G Boston, S/N: 42-86696, Red '8', 07/09/1944, Maltezi, Ro., л-т Морозов

5 BA, 218 БАД, 452 БАП, A-20G Boston, S/N: 42-53901, 09/09/1944, Tekucs, мл.л-т Аксенов

5 BA, 218 БАД, 48 БАП, A-20G Boston, S/N: 42-54280, R-2600-23 engines: 42-154303 & 42-154424, 19/09/1944, Kolozsvár-S (now: Cluj-Napoca), л-т Финогенов

5 BA, 218 БАД, 48 БАП, A-20G Boston, S/N: 42-54200, R-2600-23 engines: 42-82843 & 42-82868, 20/09/1944, Kisselyk (now: Şeica Mică), ст.л-т Николаев

5 BA, 231 ШАД, 568 ШАП, IL-2 m3 Sturmovik, S/N: 1871175, 21/09/1944, Torda-NW, 5 km, к-н Агрба

5 BA, 218 БАД, 453 БАП, A-20G Boston, S/N: 43-21689, 22/09/1944, Kolozsvár, airfield (now: Cluj-Napoca), л-т Малов Иван Александрович

5 BA, 7 ГвШАД, 130 ГвШАП, IL-2 m3 Sturmovik, One of them: S/N: 10338, 302787, 302949, 1873880, 11634, 302765, 23/09/1944, Torda-W (now: Turda-W), гв.мл.л-т Кравченко

5 BA, 7 ГвШАД, 131 ГвШАП, IL-2 m3 Sturmovik, One of them: S/N: 10338, 302787, 302949, 1873880, 11634, 302765, 23/09/1944, Torda-W (now: Turda-W), мл.л-т Пyxов

5 BA, 7 ГвШАД, 131 ГвШАП, IL-2 m3 Sturmovik, One of them: S/N: 10338, 302787, 302949, 1873880, 11634, 302765, 23/09/1944, Torda-W (now: Turda-W), гв.р-й Аркаев

5 BA, 7 ГвШАД, 130 ГвШАП, IL-2 m3 Sturmovik, S/N: 1877070, 01/10/1944, Torda-S, 4 km (now: Turda-S), мл.л-т Семеряков

5 BA, 312HБАД, 392 HБАП, Po-2 / U-2, S/N: 7282, 01/10/1944, Gáldtő (now: Galtiu), ряд. Викулин

5 BA, 279 ИАД, 192 ИАП, Lavochkin La-5F, S/N: 39214394, white "94", engine: 65032337, 06/10/1944, Temesgyarmat airfield (now: Giarmata), мл.л-т Чарушников

5 BA, 3 ГвШАК, Lisunov Li-2, S/N: 1846508, 07/10/1944, Déva, ?


Almost entirely 5th Air Army of 2nd Ukrainian Front. Hope this helps a bit.

Gabor

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Thank you very much Gabor, these are very helpful !

Hello Larry, I am not Dan but I can get in touch with him and other local guys, all I know is that there is no centralized resource yet similar to the data available on ww2.dk, online or in a book.

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Hi muggs_ro,

Thanks for your reply and I apologize for my incorrect assumption that you might be Dan! I will take your word on the lack of a consolidated OOB resource giving the base locations for the units of the AAR during the war. I will go with what I already have from myriad sources and hope for the best. Therefore, there is no need to contact Dan or others. Should any questions arise, I will post them here or on www.worldwar2.ro.

Thanks again!

Larry deZ.

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Another IL-2m3 Sturmovik loss on August 27, 1944 at the airfield of probably Gyulafehérvár(?). "При взлете на БЗ с аэр Бяла(?) уклонился влево и зацепил за дом. Самолет плашмя ударился о землю, отлетел мотор и переломился фюзеляж. Экмпаж тяжелые ушибы." - At take off they hit a building and crashed, crew critically injured.

5 BA, (Stab.) 264 ШАД Ilyushin IL-2m3 Sturmovik, S/N.: 1872974, engine: 4519770, pilot: Lt.Col. Московкин (injured), gunner: Maj. Нигматулин Саид Шагзаевич (seriously injured).

An La-5 loss at Angyalkút (now: Fântânele / Engelsbrunn) airfield on October 7, 1944: 5 BA, 279 ИАД, 92 ИАП, Lavochkin La-5FN, S/N: 39212940, white '40', engine: 8218517. Pilot: Вареник Борис Григорьевич, slightly injured. "При вылете с аэр Энгельсбрун мотор с перебоями, отказала помпа, сел на колеса. Попал в вязкий грунт, скапотировал. Самолет разбит, летчик легкие ушибы."

...and an A-20G Boston, S/N: 43-10077 (R-2600-23 engines: 42-154967 and 42-155166) on December 8, 1944 at Arad airfield (now: Oradea) due to bomb explosion on early return and forest-crash. мл.л-т Oнипко Петр Петрович's crew of 4 killed. 5 BA, 218 БАД, 48 БАП.

I hope this helps.

Gabor

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Thank you very much Gabor, much appreciated, there is a severe lack of knowledge of VVS losses over here.
As a small thank you here is a link for an ongoing project I am working on ( still hunreds of entries to add ) with romanian losses/incidents 1939-1945. http://bit.ly/Zk32D1

Larry I've sent you a PM.

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Congratulations, a superb research! I will check more VVS losses, but I am afraid. they are just combat losses without any hint on their actual airfields, so not sure if I can add anything else here.

Gabor

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Some other identified airfields used by the VVS:

5 VA, 218 BAP, 48 BAP A-20G Bostons:
Arad (Oradea) - Oct 17-Dec 31, 1944

5 VA, 218 BAP, 452 BAP A-20G Bostons:
Alkenyér (Şibot) - Oct 05-17, 1944
Arad (Oradea) - Oct 17-Dec 05, 1944

5 VA, 218 BAP, 453 BAP A-20G Bostons:
Turnu Severin - Oct 17-Dec 02, 1944

5 VA, Stab./312 NBAD Po-2/U-2:
Gáldtő (Galtiu) - ??? - Oct 03, 1944
Apatelek (Mocrea?) - Oct 03-09, 1944

5 VA, 312 NBAD, 992 NBAP Po-2/U-2:
Koslárd (Coşlariu) - Sept, 1944-Oct 05, 1944
Temesgyarmat (Giarmata) - Oct 05-15, 1944

5 VA, 13 GvIAD, 150 GvIAP Yak-1b, Yak-9:
Gyulafehérvár (Alba Iulia) Oct, 1944-

5 VA, 12 GvShAD (ex-231 ShAD), 190 GvShAP (ex-570 ShAP) IL-2m3 Sturmoviks:
Bostani, Bakeu- August, 1944
Lugos (Lugoj) - Oct, 1944
Temesvár (Timişoara) - Oct, Nov, 1944

Po-2/U-2 (S/N: 9293, engine: 76326, unit: 5 VA, Stab./264 ShAD) crash landing on August 3, 1944: "аэродром Башня Польная" - Maj. Виноградов Иван Никифорович injured.

Gabor

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Hi muggs_ro,

I just tried to reply to your PM but it could not be send. Your PM box has exceeded its limit and needs to be culled to make space.

Larry

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Larry i just deleted some messages, didn't notice it was full !

Gabor many thanks again, your help is very valuable !