Loss Info Request
 

I don't have a whole lot to go on, but hoping something might turn up.

Looking for loss information on a BF 109 (probably late model), lost on 11.2.1945, near Havelberg, Germany. I am told 'Blaue Staffel', so I am assumumg IV Gruppe is meant.


I am hoping to place some identity to some parts acquired.
The above is all i could glean from the seller.

Thanks
Brian

Re: Loss Info Request
 

Hi,
the JG1-book by Mombeek lists for the 11 Febr '45:

Uffz. Hans Gummel I./JG1, wounded.
Bf 109G-6, W-Nr. 41066.
100% damaged at a belly landing - with no location given.

Was this your crash near Havelberg ???

Regards,
digedag1

Re: Loss Info Request
 

Thank you for the reply, it is possible. I wish I had more to go on.

Re: Loss Info Request
 

I./JG 1 was equipped solely with Fw 190 !

JoMe

Re: Loss Info Request
 

41066 is not from a known Bf109 Werknummern range - if not one digit is missing

Roland

Re: Loss Info Request
 

I have:
1945-02-11, I/Erg.JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 410066, Nördlich Hof, Bauchlandung infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Gummel, Hans, verletzt

Matti

Re: Loss Info Request
 

Thank you, appreciated.

Re: Loss Info Request
 

Hi all

In my list I have a 100% loss of the WNr. 410066 on 11. Jan. 44 near Koenigslutter. The unit was JaSta Erla. The pilot, Gefr Fritz Loeser, was killed.
It's mystery.

best wishes JoMe

Re: Loss Info Request
 

I have for Fritz Loeser the W.Nr. 410086.

Regards
Rasmussen

Re: Loss Info Request
 

I have also (from NVM) 410086 for Löser.

Matti

Re: Loss Info Request
 

Hi all

I think, my entry is the wrong one. Thank you for your comments.

best wishes
JoMe

Re: Loss Info Request
 

So "1945-02-11, I/Erg.JG 1, Bf 109G-6, 410066, Nördlich Hof, Bauchlandung infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Gummel, Hans, verletzt"
seems the best candidate so far.

TY
Brian

Re: Loss Info Request
 

Some new information, by looking at some recovered parts (by another party), it is almost assuredly a G10, probably R6.

So the 410066 G6 is not a candidate. Although some clarity on 410066/410086 and Loeser/Löser I hope has been useful.

Re: Loss Info Request
 

The features on the recovered parts that Brian is referring to are:


- KG13 with Autopilot control

- Factory installed Erla Haube with cooling tube for ventilation

- Wood control surfaces (rudder/elevator, etc.)

- MG151 and MG131

- MW50


Based on this...it can only be an Erla-build G-10/R6 (probably an AS).

Anyone know of any losses in this area?

Mike