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luftquest 18th March 2013 01:56

ME 262 identification
 
http://www.thesalemnewsonline.com/ga...7a4a78c22.html

I am having a hard time seeing the werk number. I think it might be 111516.

Dan O'Connell 18th March 2013 06:41

Re: ME 262 identification
 
It's not 111516 as that isn't a good number.

Marc-André Haldimann 18th March 2013 09:37

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Hi Luftquest, correct W.Nr. is definitely 500516.

Cheers
Marc

luftquest 18th March 2013 15:28

Re: ME 262 identification
 
nice...thank you

craig

Marc-André Haldimann 18th March 2013 18:18

Re: ME 262 identification
 
You're welcome;

If known, Dan will certainly give you the full life of this particular machine;-))

Cheers
Marc

Dan O'Connell 18th March 2013 20:53

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Well done Marc. It was at Muenchen-Riem 26 April 45, and then found in a dump there.

Karl 18th March 2013 20:53

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Nice find.

Wnr 500 516 was found at Munich-Riem. Later also photographed on a scrap heap.

Karl

Karl 18th March 2013 20:55

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Hi Dan,

we pressed the "send" button same the same time!

Greetings, Karl

ouidjat 19th March 2013 00:53

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Hello,

That is resolving two or three other different pictures of the same plane with "unknown WNr."
Thank you Craig for this sharp find.

Franck.

ouidjat 19th March 2013 01:24

Re: ME 262 identification
 
...

As for the one in the scrap: Which picture??

Thanks for your help.

Regards, Franck.

ouidjat 19th March 2013 01:52

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Yep ...

Sorry, the one nearby the Bf110G with white ring on nose seems to be WNr.111617, White 9.

Thank you whatever, without that thread it could have taken much more time to discover it.

So: Left one: 500516?

Regards, Franck.

luftquest 19th March 2013 03:48

Re: ME 262 identification
 
I'm happy to contribute. The pic came up during a search for German dive bomber......
I'm trying to get a better understanding of airfield names and where pics were taken. I was reading about Brunnthal, Germany today which is said to be the collection site 12 miles south of Munich on the A8 Autobahn. http://lostimagesofww2.com/photos/places/brunnthal.php would this be the munich-riem site?

ChrisMAg2 19th March 2013 11:19

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luftquest (Post 163900)
I'm happy to contribute. The pic came up during a search for German dive bomber......
I'm trying to get a better understanding of airfield names and where pics were taken. I was reading about Brunnthal, Germany today which is said to be the collection site 12 miles south of Munich on the A8 Autobahn. http://lostimagesofww2.com/photos/places/brunnthal.php would this be the munich-riem site?

Hi, FYI,
München-Riem is located just a few miles EAST of Munich center and was a major aerodome. It was designed 1940 to replace the first civilian airfield in München-Oberwiesenfeld (the site of today's Olympic Village and Sportsarena). Brunnthal was just an alternate or shadow airfield.

RolandF 19th March 2013 12:12

Re: ME 262 identification
 
The distance between Riem and Brunnthal are some 15.5 kilometers...

Regards

Roland

Dan O'Connell 20th March 2013 03:04

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Hello Karl, how nice to see you! I hope you are well.

edNorth 20th March 2013 08:00

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Second "Munchen-Riem" foto is taken at Brunnthal, exactly in the scrapyard near the Autobahn.

Ed

ouidjat 21st March 2013 01:14

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Thanks Ed!

regards, Franck.

luftquest 26th March 2013 06:45

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Hi Franck,

a couple of white 9:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01/5538749081/
http://www.xn--strahljger-w5a.de/html/buch.html

Do a google pic search for gotterdammerung luftwaffe wrecks and relics. The book cover shows white 9, white outline 34, and white f lined up. This should help with your thumbnail question

As for the second thumb, maybe. The rudder trim tab on both pictures are kicked over to the right and damage on the windshields seem to match.

About the best I can do with zooming in my browser.

craig

luftquest 27th March 2013 18:36

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Just a little update if the two pictures haven't been linked together in the past.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/u...0DJunkJV44.jpg

in this color picture is a small aircraft under the nose of the Dora (picture angle) and note angle of the Dora's props......

http://mrjohnsonssclasses.wikispaces...376/me262.JPG#

in this pic, the Dora prop is in view at the top left of the pic and the small plane is near the right wing of the 262.

any thoughts?

Nordpol54 28th March 2013 08:19

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Hello luftquest,

that small plane is a Bf 108.

Best Regards
Norbert

RolandF 28th March 2013 12:04

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Those planes were standing in a long row parallel to the airport buildings at the end of the war.
Among them two Fw190D of the Platzschutzstaffel JV 44, one (among two) communications Siebel 204D of JV 44 and several other abandoned Luftwaffe planes. Later shoved together at the border of the airfield
Most likely this Me 262 was part of JV 44 IMO.

Regards

Roland

luftquest 29th March 2013 04:31

Re: ME 262 identification
 
good info.....thank you both.

ouidjat 29th March 2013 09:22

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Hello,

Thanks Luftquest, effectively!... same place.
By the way:
Walk around N°42 (Me 262) page 74 (extract). I read München-Riem.

RolandF 30th March 2013 10:41

Re: ME 262 identification
 
Picture of Me 262A-1a "white 9 " WNr 111617 from III./EJG 2 taken at Brunnthal gathering point. Ju 290 9V+AB WNr 290110191 can be recognized right behind in the background.

Servus

Roland


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