Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hello,

on 19/08/1944 Fl/Lt Plisnier of 350 (Belgian) Squadron shot down a Ju-88 near Brussels. This was the first confirmed kill made by a Spitfire MkXIV. I'd like to know the unit of the destroyed Ju-88 and the names and fait of the crew.


Best regards,


Serge

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Serge, the only listings I have are landing accident crashes by nightfighters and one by LG1 that says it was downed by a nightfighter.

Sure of the date and claim?

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hello John,

I've a copy of combat report which stated 19/08/1944 at 08:05


Best regards,


Serge

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Well, looks like a case of mistaken ID. Me 410s were frequently mistaken for Ju-88s. Maj. George Preddy claimed 4 Ju-88s on 18-July-44 but the gun camera film clearly shows Me 410s. Hey, it had 2 engines and a big rudder!

Neither side was as good as ID'ing types as we are, today! ;)

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hi,

Fw Karl Küster died on 20/08/1944 and was initially buried at Brussels (later transferred to the German War Cemetery at Lommel). Could he have been one of the crewmembers of the plane in question ?

Best regards

Luc

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hi Luc:

No such name listed on any of the Ju-88 losses, and, there are no 410 losses for the date. There is only 1 He 111 loss, but that's in Romania.

Of course, we are missing 1000s of damaged listings from 1944, so who knows?

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

John,

Thanks for the info.

It's possible that his death was not aircraft related.

best regards from Belgium

Luc

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Form 540 from Hawkinge and Form 540 from 350 Sqn both mention 19/08/1944 but a citation signed by Belgian Prime Minister H.Pierlot mentions 18/08/1944 as date, can this be the reason?


kind regards,


Serge

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hi !

On 18/08/1944 a Ju88 of NJG4 crashed near Sint-Truiden (St-Trond).
Could this be the plane in question ?

Best regards from another part of Belgium

Luc

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hello Luc,

Do you have more information about the circumstances of this crash. Time stamp, in combat, crew, etc....


Thank you in advance


Serge

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

According to NVM Fw Karl Küster was killed 1944-08-19 at Londerzeel, 17 km nordnordwestlich Brüssel in Do 217 M1, 722964, U5+IL of 3./KG 2.

Matti

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hello Matti,

Thank you for this aditional info. Was this after combat ? Do you know perhaps around what time he crashed?


best regards,

Serge

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Unfortunately no other info except, that it was an operational flight (Feindflug).

Matti

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hello ,

18/08/1944
St-Truiden airfield 2km east
Ju-88
Crashlanding
2./NJG4
Lt Marstaller Wolfgang (KIA) 62529/37 21/02/1924 Sulzbach an der Kocher
Uffz Hurny Erhard ( KIA ) 6259/36 radio 12/01/1921 Halle/Saale
Obgfr Dietzmann Kurt ( WIA ) 62529/41 29/10/1920 Gera

Regards
Alain57

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hello Alain and Matti,

Thank you both for your reply.

The ORB of Hawkinge mentions 19/08/1944 as date of his victory. Now is the question at what time the DO217 crashed at Londerzeel. Plisnier claimed to have shotdown his victim around 08.00 am.


Best regards,

Serge

Re: Ju-88 shot down near Brussels on 19/08/44
 

Hi Serge,

No indication found regarding the time of the crash at Londerzeel.

Best regards

Luc