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mongoose44 30th June 2013 20:02

luftwaffe runway amd approach lights
 
Does anyone know details on these; specifically for NJG Fliegerhorsts?

Larry deZeng 30th June 2013 20:36

Re: luftwaffe runway amd approach lights
 
Obstruction and perimeter lighting, permanent runway lighting, beam approach system and a visual Lorenz system.

All of the above on the permanent airdromes in the Reich, Denmark, Holland, Belgium and France that hosted NJG units.

L.

mongoose44 30th June 2013 20:40

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Thanks for that. Any more details/specifications/colours? Also what about runway end and beginning lights? I am specifically interested in Deelen and Venlo at the moment, but basically all NJG bases.

Larry deZeng 30th June 2013 20:50

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There are some Deelen and Venlo specialists among the members here and I am sure one or more of them has more details for you.

SES 30th June 2013 22:12

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1 Attachment(s)
The lights at Grove, which was a night fighter airfield.
bregds
SES

mongoose44 30th June 2013 22:24

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Thanks for that SES. Is that on gyges? I can't make out the lettering on the approach paths; do you know what it is? Was Lorenz type approach on that field?

mongoose44 30th June 2013 22:38

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I have some information on Venlo lighting in http://fliegerhorstvenlo.webklik.nl/page/documentatie

so I am imagining Deelen would be somewhat similar?

SES 30th June 2013 23:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongoose44 (Post 168919)
Thanks for that SES. Is that on gyges? I can't make out the lettering on the approach paths; do you know what it is? Was Lorenz type approach on that field?

Hi,
As a matter of fact it is partly, please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/fliegerhorst_grove9.htm
And sorry I do not know the manufacturer of the various pieces of equipment.
bregds
SES

mongoose44 30th June 2013 23:42

Re: luftwaffe runway amd approach lights
 
Thanks for that info. Much appreciated!

SES 30th June 2013 23:45

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My pleasure.
bregds
SES

Jaap Woortman 1st July 2013 12:14

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See for information about runways and lighting systems in the Luftwaffe, Bundesarchiv RL 23/98.
A night picture of the Deelen lighting system, see appendix picture 1.
The second and third picture show parts of the lighting system of Deelen as can be seen in the Deelen museum.
The second picture is a lightcover from the runway lighting.
In the right undercorner of the picture you can see a ceramic stone with a reflective layer.
It's located in the centre of the taxi-track. The function of the third light is not 100% clear but most probably a boundary light.
You can see them in the field around the three runways.
In "Vliegvelden in oorlogstijd" page 89 you can see an Underground report about Deelen's llighting system from March 8th, 1944.

Jaap

mongoose44 1st July 2013 15:26

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Thanks Jaap! Fantastic information and the 1st jpg is just what I wanted as well. Now the "Fliegerhorst Venlo-Herongen Inleiding" link I mentioned above is pretty clear for Venlo so I am sort of assuming the sets of approach lights are more or less similar distances; unless you have more detailed Deelen information?
Thanks again.

James

Jaap Woortman 1st July 2013 15:34

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James,

I have made a scan of the Resistance report in "Vliegvelden in oorlogstijd".
See appendix.

Jaap

mongoose44 1st July 2013 15:38

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Many thanks! It will help me learn Dutch! :o (Thank goodness for Google!) Looks exactly what I needed.

James

SES 1st July 2013 16:37

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Hi,
You will see the exact same pattern at Grove and the 1'st jpg looks to me like a construct since the correct colors are missing.
bregds
SES

SES 1st July 2013 22:27

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2 Attachment(s)
The runway lights at Aalb-West and a page from the German manual, with the correct colors.
bregds
SES

mongoose44 1st July 2013 23:19

Re: luftwaffe runway amd approach lights
 
Thanks SES, all great stuff! In addition I can practice some German now as well; although similar and technical words close to English! All of this pretty much fills in a lot of gaps in my knowledge.

James

SES 2nd July 2013 06:47

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Hi James,
Glad it was of use.
bregds
SES

mongoose44 3rd July 2013 14:34

Re: luftwaffe runway amd approach lights
 
Hi Jaap. Does "Vliegvelden in oorlogstijd". give any information on the distances from the runways for Ho.Bu , Ho.Bi., and L.F.?

James

SES 3rd July 2013 16:21

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Hi James,
I'm slightly dismayed. In post # 8 I sent you this link:
http://www.gyges.dk/fliegerhorst_grove9.htm
which has this sub-link:
http://www.gyges.dk/fliegerhorst_grove9a.htm
but you keep asking questions, that to me indicated that you did not study those pages.
Kind regards
SES

mongoose44 3rd July 2013 16:31

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Sorry SES, although I looked at all of the 1st page, I missed the sub link. :(

My apologies!

James

ju55dk 3rd July 2013 17:06

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Here you have a technical plan of connections.

Junker

mongoose44 3rd July 2013 17:11

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Thank you for that. :)


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