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ouidjat 5th July 2013 09:31

eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Good morning Gentlemen,

I feel it's summertime down there!! Something new to Wake up!!!!

1/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Flu...item20d4d4725d
Hans von Hahn Bf 109F, Stab I./JG 3. New photo I presume.

2/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Wehr...item48573265ef
Already put in auction by another seller some month ago.
Note: strange seller who seems to sell only known pictures ...

3/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Wehr...item4857327c4b
same comments (Rumanian Bf 109 E)

4/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Me-109-Notlan...item48572acbf4
5/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Me-109-Notlan...item53fac3b59e
6/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Me-109-Notlan...item48572acbd4
Stab II./JG 3; will check later; but you can do it too. New Photo?

7/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugzeug-Jage...item232cda37e5
That good old "Schwarze 11"; still unknown unit?

8/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-RK...item48572acb0e
Cherbourg?

9/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-RK...item48572acaef
Obviously Wick's plane, new photo?

10/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-RK...item53fac4ea2d
Another one from 1./JG 2, still Cherbourg.

11/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-RK...item48572bd1fd
"Schwarze 5", most probably JG 2 and Cherbourg too.

12/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Soldat-F...item5af2d40264
JFS?

13/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-JG-...item53fac24ccf

14/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Foto...item485732c442
Don't know; need to be checked.... Steinert, Horst. Uffz. 7./JG 3. "Weisse 9". F-4/Z WNr.7501. 5 March 1942.

15/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Foto...item485732bae4
JG 54

16/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/ME109-abgesch...item35c95567f0
Any idea?

Regards, Franck.

FalkeEins 5th July 2013 21:32

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Hi Franck

was interested in the Stab II./JG 3 G-2 (?) series - didn't see any of them in Prien anywhere - is this Ltn. Max-Bruno Fischer?

ouidjat 5th July 2013 21:43

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Salut Neil,

Of course it's a Bf 109F, not a G-2.
For the details I really don't know, I don't have the good Prien volumes concerning that period...
Max-Bruno Fischer did score 6. Here we have 10 victories. Can't be ...

Regards, Franck.

Falcon 6th July 2013 09:17

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Nice collection, Franck. Thanks!
Can you please add count numbers for each link? Then its easy to quote... and please empty lines between, for separation. :-)

ouidjat 6th July 2013 10:30

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Hi David,

Yes I can!

Any clue for that WNr.2315 (or 2515 or 2815) ?

@Neil;
Again there is an added armoured windscreen; can't be a Bf 109 G-2.
Somebody knows who flew that machine with 10 scores?

Regards, Franck.

ouidjat 6th July 2013 10:46

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
4, 5 & 6
I have something:
Bf 109 F-2, WNr.8975, Uffz. Heinz Kemethmüller on 2-Aug-1941 (or 9-Aug-1941 ?) Fl.Pl. Wassilkow - 40%. Luftkampf with enemy fighters.

WRONG SEE UNDER!!!!!!

Does it match with scoreboard ?? Period matches with camouflage on cowling ...

Cheers, Franck.

Rasmussen 6th July 2013 12:19

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 169234)
Bf 109 F-2, WNr.8975, Uffz. Heinz Kemethmüller on 2-Aug-1941 (or 9-Aug-1941 ?) Fl.Pl. Wassilkow - 40%. Luftkampf with enemy fighters.

Where does the information came from?

Regarding his flight log on this day (02.08.1941) he started in Bjelaja Zerkow and landed in Bjelaja Zerkow without an mentioned damage of his a/c. (On 09.08.1941 he flew the "black 5".)

Kemethmüller was in III.group, the a/c is from II.group.

Regards
Rasmussen

ouidjat 6th July 2013 12:29

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Hi Rasmussen,

You're right, I'm sorry, I didn't read the III very well :o Thank you.
...
Here http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...Kemethm%FCller post #5 by JimP. Sorry Jim.

Regards, Franck.

Don Pearson 6th July 2013 14:37

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
For the II./JG3 machine;

noticed that both Gordon Gollob and Franz Beyer had about 10 claims each in early July 1941. Also of note is that the Stab machines had white codes in summer 1942.

Don

ouidjat 7th July 2013 09:11

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Hi Don,

Thanks for the suggestions but I'm not convinced.
Gollob was Group Kdr since 27/6/1941 and Beyer was flying a "Schwarze 5" in August 41 while Stfkpt. ...

Regards, Franck.

ChrisS 7th July 2013 22:46

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
So not Heinz Kemethmüller? I'm confused Franck....help ..:confused:

Rasmussen 7th July 2013 23:10

Re: eBay: some Bf 109s on eBay
 
Correct --- not Heinz Kemethmüller ... like Jim P. wrote in the link mentioned in posting #8: On 02.08.41 he had an single flight with "<" but without an damage of the a/c, on 09.08.41 he flew the "black 5" but the a/c was damaged with another pilot (in the Jim P. - link is written as "N.N." and guessed that's the "<"). And ... the a/c was from II./ JG 3 and Kemethmüller from III./ JG 3.

Regards
Rasmussen


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