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loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
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Anyone know what Ju88 V4+HT (9/KG1) was doing when she was shot down off Gt Yarmouth on 22nd January? Regards |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Ju 88A-5 WNr.0578 of 9./KG 1, Pilot Ltn. Wolfgang Lademann, Observer Uffz. Emil Plasa, Radio operator Uffz. Gerhard Reber & Gunner Gefr. Emil Fink MIA 22.Jan. 1941, cause unknown, during a mission to Birmingham.
GRM |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Thank you
anyone else know of any other a/c lost or damaged off the Norfolk coast about that time? I am aware of 4D+LS that crashed in Somerton on 26th and another that crashed in Zandvoort on 25th james |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Where is your source that it was shot down off Great Yarmouth? This would mean this ac was way off course
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Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Hi Chris
it was was vol. 2 of Winston Ramsey's book. I wonder if this ac didnt divert to check reports of a stranded merchantman off Cromer |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
The attack would have been at night and to divert that far out either to or from its base at Grevillers is unlikely. From what I remember Jack Foreman in his 1941 book gave another loss situation. I need to look at my Blitz book and the Luftflotte 3 reports which will confirm it but I am mid-way through a computer rebuild
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Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Ramsey gives time of loss at 15:00! Could it have been a single raider/weather recon?
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Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Luft.GQM returns just gives for V4+HT (Birmingham) as place and lost to unknown cause. Bader's combat report shows claimed at 1519hrs. 60-70 miles east of Yarmouth. In the combat report it says e/a jettisoned its bombs, returned fire and after several attacks went into straight into the sea and ''E/A Colour : Black and light blue underneath, very dark English type camoufage on top. Amazing similarity to long-nosed Blenheim untill black crosses were seen on underside of wings''. I could not find another Ju88 lost this date to fit Bader's claim,
Regards Brian Bines |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Thanks Brian. Dont happen to have a copy of the combat report you could send me do you?
James |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
James, no problem PM me an e-mail address,
Brian Bines |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Right-have sorted it out. John Foreman in his 1941 book is wrong when he says that this ac was shot down by 91 Sqn at 1125 hrs. III/KG 1 carried out 3 attacks by daylight that day. First took off at 1057 hrs to attack Birmingham, 2nd at 1106 hrs to attack Leamington. Both got back. 2nd ac was probably the one that was attacked by 91 Sqn as he reported flying back over the Thames. At 1456, Lademann took off to attack an aluminum factory at Stechford. Nothing was heard from him after 1556 hrs when he stated was off Great Yarmouth. Ergo Bader shot down Lademann
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Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Chris
Well done. What are your sources if not Foreman? James |
Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Luftwaffe records dated 23 Jan 41
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Re: loss of Ju88 V4+HT Jan 1941
Thank you
Difficult to account for his being so far north |
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