Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Hallo.
Could you please someone help me?
Ernst Obermaier has written in his book "Die Ritterkreuzträger der Luftwaffe" , that Johannes Steinhoff had shot down 3 Soviet and 3 American airplanes, when he was at the Unit JV 44.

I have found this:


End of Februar (28. 2. 1945 ?) Il-2 Steinhoff, Johannes: In Letzter Stunde
End of March (27.3. 1945?) 2x Soviet fighter Steinhoff, Johanes: In Letzter Stunde
8. 4. 1945 B-24 Steinhoff, Johannes: In Letzter Stunde
8. 4. 1945 P-51 Toliver/Constable: Das Waren Deutschen Jagdflieger asse
17. 4. 1945 B-17 Steinhoff, Johannes: In Letzter Stunde

Please, can you verify (confirm) this from some oficial sources?

Thank you very much for your help.

Brzkovský Marek.

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Can't state with complete certainty that these are entirely accurate, and some may be duplicates, but here is what I've compiled from various sources.

Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberstltn., , , JV 44, 22-Feb-45, Il-2, -, -, ., -, , yes, Foreman/Harvey, Me 262 Combat Diary, , Fleischer/Rys, Me 262, II,
Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberst, , , JV 44, 27-Mar-45, Il-2 *, Raum Oder, -, ., -, , yes, Forsyth, JV 44, , , *Date uncertain
Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberst, , , JV 44, 03-Apr-45, B-17, -, -, ., -, , yes, Steinhoff FB, , ,
Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberst, , , JV 44, 05-Apr-45, P-51, -, -, ., -, , yes, Forsyth, JV 44, , Steinhoff FB,
Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberst, , , JV 44, 05-Apr-45, P-51, -, -, ., -, , yes, Steinhoff FB, , ,
Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberst, , , JV 44, 08-Apr-45, B-24, -, -, ., -, , yes, Fleischer/Rys, Me 262, II, , ,
Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberst, , , JV 44, 08-Apr-45, B-17, Raum Stuttgart, -, ., -, , yes, Foreman/Harvey, Me 262 Combat Diary, , ,
Steinhoff, Johannes, Oberst, , , JV 44, 17-Apr-45, B-17, München, -, ., -, , yes, Fleischer: Me 262, II, , , collision

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

hi,
i think he have in the microfilms:
3 claims in JG7
3 in JV44

27,2.45 St./JG 7 Obstlt Yak-9 _____ _____ E
27,2.45 St./JG 7 Obstlt Yak-9 _____ _____ E
20,3.45 St./JG 7 Obstlt Il-2 _____ _____ E
3,4.45 JV 44 Obstlt B-17 09?? _____ W
5,4.45 JV 44 Obstlt P-51 Reim Reim _____ _____ W
9,4.45 JV 44 Obstlt P-51 121? _____ W


but Johannes have more info... i send him a mail...

regards

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

hi,
seems a date error, i´ll ask to Johannes,
please waiting him response directly or by me indirectly...

regards

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Thank you.

Brzkovský Marek

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Neither 8th nor 15th Af lost any B-24s over Germany on 08.04.1945. Further only a single P-51 was shot down by Flak.

Regards

Heuser

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Thank you.

The P-51 shot down next to Munchen at 16 hours ???

Brzkovský Marek

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

hi,
can you add some info at the P-51 loss?
i search in my sources and don´t find anything...

regards

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Gentlemen

this was P-51 44-64011, 355.FG, 357.FS.

According to MACR 13959, this a/c was hit by Flak around 12.35 hrs while strafing Ansbach a/f.

Pilot was 1./Lt. William J. Cullerton, he died in early 2013.

Regards

Heuser

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

hi,
sorry for the request,
i finally found the info:

13959 450408 P-51D-20-NA 44-64011 OS-X Miss Steve 355 357 Capt. William J "Bill" Cullerton POW Written off (damaged beyond repair) Ansbach/R-45 (Bayern) D

i am waiting the info of Johannes....
regards

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

The Il-2 that is listed in the thread for the 27Apr45 is also listed in Forsyth's book JV 44 as "in the vicinity of Strausberg," and above the Oder.

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Hallo,

Il-2 shot down 27. 4. 1945 ???
no 27. 3. 1945 ???

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

My mistake on the date but the location is the same.:)

Re: Steinhoff JV 44 victories
 

Hello.
According to my information and sources should Steinhoff have these fights in April:

5. 4. 45 Stranbing 10.30 a. m. JV 44 shot down: 7 x Viermott
8. 4. 45 Stuttgart 3 – 4 p. m. JV 44 shot down: 3 x B-17, 1 x B-24, 1 x P-51
17. 4. 45 Munchen ? JV 44 shot down: 6 x B-17

Does anyone of you know USAAF´ s losts?

Thank you.
Marek Brzkovský