Looking for abstracts to von Rohden collection at NARS in the 1960's
 

Dear All,

Is anyone familiar with the von Rohden documents held during the 1960's at the National Archives Records Service at the old torpedo factory in Alexandria, Virginia? The accession numbers of documents I have, which were likely applied by our National Archives, run:

4376-163
4406-493
4376-323
4376-394
4376-436
etc.

These documents were researched by Richard P. Bateson during a joint research trip to Washington, D.C. in the mid-sixties. Many are compilations of documents. I will either have to deduce the common thread for each, short of finding an abstract, which would be far easier to use to properly label them into my collection.

My guess is that NARA retains the microfilms and that any hard copues were long ago returned to German archives where they may still bear a cross reference to the NARS accession numbers.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,
Richard

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http://www.archives.gov/research/cap...ofilm/t971.pdf

The Library of Congress has found its Von Rohden collection microfilms, which were missing in action for a number of years. This is the research equivalent of the return of Elvis.

It does have less microfilm rolls than that held at NARA, College Park.

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Dear David,

Bless you! Wow, that saves me a lot of effort! I checked one of my documents, 4376-2715, and that was precisely what I had surmised it to be.

The von Rohden collection, whether in duplicates or different parts, is held by the AFHRA, NARA, and, as you say, the Library of Congress.

Regards,
Richard

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At the great risk of appearing immodest in this world of pious modesty that we all live in today, I am the researcher who "discovered" the missing DLC (Library of Congress) von Rohden reels way back in 1988-89. I made use of them then and they were again used a few years later by Dr Richard R. Muller, Professor of Military History and Dean of Academics, USAF School of Advanced Air and Space Studies. And David Isby is correct: the DLC collection consists of fewer reels than do the NARA and AFHRA collections, but 7 or 8 of them are different and not duplicated in the other collections. The DLC reels are in the Microfilm Reading Room, of course.

I might add that rumors were rampant back in the 1980's and 1990's that many more von Rohden reels along with abundant other Luftwaffe documentation were stored in long-forgotten crates and boxes in a DLC warehouse in Landover, Maryland. I and several others wrote inquiries to DLC asking for confirmation but their response was essentially evasion and denial. According to some, the warehouse is poorly organized, so poorly that DLC has no real idea of what is there. Crates and boxes are piled high on top of one another and some of those on the bottom have been there and unopened for 50 or 60 years.

That's the story to date as I know it.

L.

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So, Larry, the final scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is true! ;)

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Dear Larry and David,

Ah, the old rumor surfaces again!

I used the T971 file index you connected me to, David, but there were about 30% of the documents I have that aren't listed there. Is there another index for the von Rohden collection that either of you know of that might fill in the blanks?

Regards,
Richard

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There is n o "master" index that I know of. It seems that each repository made their own to reflect just what they each held. It seems that the so-called von Rohden documents were filmed in different places at different times, so their trail of custody is uncertain at best. The archivist who had the best understanding of the von Rohden collection was NARA's George Wagner, but he retired in the early 1980's and is probably no longer with us.

Since the von Rohden collection is nothing more than the surviving documents of the 8.Abt./Genst.d.Lw., the most complete holding of them is probably at BA-MA Freiburg. But I don't know if BA-MA has them indexed or inventoried.

L.

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Try this link and then you can browse the microfilm catalogue

https://eservices.archives.gov/order...s.archives.gov

Regards,
Norbert

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Dear Norbert,

While your link got me to NARA's website and I was able to see the 1-page coverage of T971, I didn't see a way to get to the compilation page. However, had I been able to, I think it would have been the page David directed me to.

NARA's site has always been an enigma to me. Sometimes I have better luck finding something there through Google.

Regards,
Richard

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Hi Richard,
I was frustrated too, but here we go: search for T971 , once the site comes up to the right there is a PDF symbol that states: view important publication details. This file will have some more detailed descriptions. Let me know if this worked.

Regards,
Norbert

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Do these files have any relevance to the ME 262?

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attached is the T971 index as an MS Word doc for those interested (the PDF was too large to add as an attachment).

Cheers

Rod

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4376-163
4406-493
4376-323
4376-394
4376-436

Not one of these is listed in the NARA T-971 inventory provided by RodM. This suggests that the 5+ files sought by R.E. may be in the 6 or 7 reels not held by NARA, or they never got microfilmed, or they were possibly misplaced in other NARA T-Microcopies.

L.

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Dear All,

From the quality of the copies I have, it looks like at least some were likely made from hard copies, not microfilm. As I recall, there was a press to get as much microfilmed before the originals were to be returned to Germany. My vague recollection is that this was supposed to be done by the late 50's, but perhaps it carried over into the 60's and Richard Bateson was lucky to still have access to the originals.

Thanks for showing me where the stones were, Norbert. Your version runs 108 pages and David Isby's runs 102 pages. Why, I don't know. I will check the longer version to see if it has abstracts of the documents I couldn't find in the shorter version.

Dan, yes they contain Me 262 information, but, alas, not Werknummern. Richard's selection of documents was a rather eclectic mix. One nifty one dealt with the end of war fuel situation, including at specific airfields. One or more are clearly postwar write-ups by Germans in the know. One deals with the power play between Göring in the South and Hitler trapped in Berlin in the North. There's a couple that are just compilations of Luftwaffe pilot loss reports, but very early in the war and having absolutely nothing to do with the Me 262. One deals with Luftwaffe strength, a hand written diagram of units and aircraft of each. I'm still trying to get my arms around them. It's probably one reason why I put off trying to file them in the first place.

Oh, and it's only a couple dozen documents in all.

Regards,
Richard

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Hi Larry,

all of Richard's file references are listed in the T971 index:

Dec. 22, 1944 – 4376/163
Tarnzahlen für Flugplätze
Code numbers for German air fields.

May 2, 1945 – 4406/493
Unteriagen für lagebeurteilung
Appraisals of the situation pertaining to air forces, readiness for action of air
task forces, “Storch” (German liaison airplane), antiaircraft forces, and
armament as of May 1, 1945.

Sept. 17, 1944 – 4376/323
Gedanken zur Beurteilung der Ausbildungslage
Appraisal of Air Force training as effected by the scarcity of aviation fuel.

June 25, 1943 – 4376/394
Entwicklung der Flugkraftstefflage der deutschen Luftwaffe
Report relating to the development of aviation fuel situation of the German Air
Force. Also statistical data concerning fuel production, on hand, and consumed.

June 1, 1945 – 4376/436a
Vernehmung von Herman Göring
Report, written under the supervision of the US Strategic Air Force and Air
Ministry, concerning a lengthy interrogation of Herman Göring by officers of
the Luftwaffe Vernehmungs Abteilung (German Air Force Interrogation
Section) due to Hitler’s questioning Göring’s personal intentions in conduct of
the aerial warfare and relating to the following matter: 1. allied air power and
the war, 2. the German Air Force, 3. jet propelled aircraft, 4. allied strategic
bombings, 5. the battle for England, 6. the Russian campaign and the Russian
Air Force, 7. Japan, and 8. other campaigns and operations.

Sept. 23, 1944 – 4376/436b
Report by Col. Ottemeyer concerning statutes governing conduct of war and its dogma, presented by examples for World War II.

Richard, the difference in page numbers between the two PDFs - the 102-page PDF contains an index to the first 61 rolls of microfilm, and the 108-page PDF contains the index for the entire 73 roll set. I recall that the 102-page version was the first to be made available as a PDF by NARA, and then some time (months? years?) later it was replaced by the PDF with the complete index.

Regards

Rod

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Very good, Rod. I don't know why I didn't see at least one of them. The file numbers appeared to be in numerical order, so I did not start on page 1 and proceed to the last page. I guess the 5 or 6 files were out of order and that's why I did not see them, or maybe I'm just getting blind. Thanks for straightening this out.

L.

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Dear Rod,

Thanks for the abstracts. I'd found all but 4376-394, so that is encouraging me that the updated T971 NARA posting may have the others missing in the earlier list. Here's my full list:

4376-163
4406-493
4376-323
4376-394
4376-436
4376-531 Part 1
4376-531 Part 2
4376-531 Part 3
4376-533
4376-581
4376-1176
4376-1161
4376-1080
4376-702
4376-699
4376-653
4376-1214
4376-608
4376-1305
4376-1218
4376-1220
4376-1780
4376-1364
4376-2098
4376-2659
4376-2715
4376-1407

They are listed in the stacked order that I received them from NARS. 4376-531 seems to be a single document - at least I've bound it as such.

Thank you all for your terrific help.

Regards,
Richard

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Some quite interesting reading there.

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For those with a continuing interest in the von Rohden Collection.


“In response to a request made by General Spaatz before his retirement, the United States Air Force is presenting to the Library of Congress a complete set of the group of documents in the Air University Libraries which takes its name from Generalmajor Hans Detlef Herhudt von Rohden, who in the final years of the late war served as director of the so-called Wehrwissenschaftliche Abteilung (equivalent to “historical section” in U.S. terminology) of the Oberkommando der Luftwaffe. The total collection will consist of 124 reels of 35-mm. microfilm, but of these only 56 have thus far been received. Though the remaining 68 reels are still being used for official purposes by the Army Historical Office, plans are being made to assure that a copy of these (which contain some 54,400 documents of the high command of the German Air Force and aircraft industry) will also come to the Library.”

[Source: the above comes from an in-house USAF or NARA publication of unknown title or date that contains a 9-column article in 6 pages (pp.44-49) entitled, “The Von Rohden Collection”. I was given a photocopy of these pages by either George Wagner or John Taylor of the Modern Military Branch in 10W of the NARA building on 8th and Pennsylvania Ave., WashDC, on 15 August 1985.

This article, together with the published title cited below, provide an exquisitely detailed account of the von Rohden Collection from its inception to the late 1950’s or early 1960’s:

Homze, Edward L. German Military Aviation: A Guide to the Literature. New York: Garland, 1984. Volume 2 in Garland Reference Library of Social Science. 193 pages.

L.

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Dear All,

Actually, in checking, I had been able to find 4376-394 in the shorter list.

Abstracts missing still in either list are:

4376-533
4376-581
4376-1214
4376-608
4376-1364
4376-2098
4376-2659

Some documents will be relatively easy for which to create an abstract, others are very difficult. Hopefully, these seven fall in the former category. I'm also noting document dates or date ranges as I go.

Yes, Dan, an interesting mix, but I'm still wondering just why Richard copied some of them.

Regards,
Richard

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Dear All,

It's a slow slog going through and trying to find the correct descriptor for each of the 2 dozen von Rohden documents I have. One of the ones I worked on today (4376-1214) deals with the order setting up a special Me 262 unit under Gen. Galland. The order is dated 10.2.45 and is signed by v. Greiff.

It is but a single page, so I transcribed the text, then made an attempt to translate it:

Transcribed text:

"1.) Die durch Umgliederung der IV./JG 54 in eine Me 262 - Jagdgruppe (II./JG 7) freiwerdende 4. Staffel ist geschlossen Gen.Lt. Galland zur Aufstellung einer unter seiner Führung stehenden und dem JG 7 anzugleidernen Jagdstaffel Me 262 zur Verfügung zu stellen.

2.) Organisationsbefehl ergeht durch Gen.Qu.2.Abt."

Rough translation of text:

"1.) By order to organize IV./JG 54 into an Me 262 - Jagdgruppe (II./JG 7) released 4. Staffel is closed Gen.Lt. Galland for establishing a standing under his leadership and the JG 7 to organize Jagdstaffel Me 262 to provide.

2.) Organization order is issued by Gen.Qu.2.Abt."

I used quite a few resources to do the translation, but I'm not happy with the roughness of the first section. Yes, I can get the gist of it, but it would be nicer to have a cleaner translation to go with the document.

Anyone want to give it a try?

Regards,
Richard

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I'll give it a go although my German is a bit rusty lately, some of the wording is a bit weird in the provided text.

Adaptation :

Due to the reorganisation of IV./JG 54 in a Me 262 fighter group (II./JG 7) , the now vacant 4th squadron is reserved to Gen.Lt. Galland to create under his command a Me 262 fighter squadron which will also be affiliated to JG 7.

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Dear muggs ro,

Thanks for giving it a go. I'm glad that you were able to confirm that it wasn't just me that had trouble with this one. Now, my take on it was that Galland was taking the 4. Staffel of IV./JG 54 and II./JG 7 to start out with for his new unit. Your interpretation may be closer to the truth.

What's the difference between 4. Staffel and IV./JG 54? If there isn't any difference, then why are they mentioned separately? Luftwaffe organization and operations are not my strong points.

Anyone else want to give it a try?

Regards,
Richard

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Hi Larry,

thanks for the interesting information on the collection. As 73 rolls are at NARA, I wonder what happened to the remaining 51 rolls of the 124 roll collection?

Cheers

Rod

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Hi Rod,

I guess that's one of the great mysteries surrounding all of the Luftwaffe documents that were sent to the U.S. after the war for use by postwar study groups and then microfilming.

All I can do is speculate because there a number of possibilities. It seems that they were last in the possession of the Army Historical Office which, after several moves, ended up in the former Munitions Building on Constitution Avenue in Washington by the mid-1970's. This office was busy writing multi-volume histories of the U.S. Army, had a large staff of historians and university professors, and had the power and authority to seize whatever World War II documents it wanted to undertake its mission. Unfortunately, not everything that passed into its hands got returned to its proper venue. For example, I know for a fact that large amounts of documentation from the war in the Pacific ended up in its hands and was then "lost". Many years later, some of this material was found at NARA stored in unrelated boxes in the Army Historical Office record group instead of having been returned to the record group where it belonged. Hence, for years no one could find these documents.

So that's my guess on where the missing reels might have ended up. As you know, researchers have often said that the main difference between the U.S. NARA and the British PRO is quantity and cataloguing. The Brits heavily purged their WWII records but know exactly where every document is, while the Americans saved every last scrap of paper and don't don't know where anything is. It appears that this is the case here.

L.

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4. Staffeln was but one Staffeln of II/JG 7, but IV./JG 54 is whole 4th Group (that normally included 10., 11, and 12th Staffeln):
so this does not seem total of 4 Staffeln transformed into II/JG 7 - or was it (this designation) 4./JG 7 not used and the (all three) Staffeln of IV/JG 54 forming just 5th and 6th Staffeln/JG 7?

I can not elaborate further as I do not know exact histories of IV/JG 54 or II/JG 7 (or how this really became organized).

-Ed

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Hi All,
in plain english it menas that IV./JG 54 (a four squadron gruppe) will be redesignated as II./JG 7 (a three squadron gruppe). The squadron that remains is to be completedly subordinated to Galland for creation of a squadron under his leadership that mirrors those Me 262 staffeln of JG 7.

Regards,
Norbert

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Seems IV./JG 54 was not disbanded, rather becoming IV./JG 26 later in February 45.
But yes, it was a four Staffeln Gruppe... this site helps yet again.
http://www.ww2.dk/
http://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg54.htm
(so IV./JG 54 this perhaps was only drained of suitable trainees)

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Dear Ed and Norbert,

Thanks for your input. I've also contacted Robert Forsyth, author of JV 44, independently. One of the hinge words here is "geschlossen", a verb describing Galland's status. At this point, Galland was without portfolio or, even worse, possibly under indictment. The date of the document, as I mentioned, is 10.2.45, so I'm not exactly sure of his status at the time. The use of the word may also have been done in distain or disgust. It is hard to say.

I've attempted to reconstruct the statement to get a clearer meaning and context flow:

"1.) By order to organize IV./JG 54 into an Me 262 - Jagdgruppe (II./JG 7), 4. Staffel is released to Gen.Lt. Galland, currently without standing, to organize and establish a Jagdstaffel of Me 262's under his leadership to provide as part of JG 7."

Comments?

Regards,
Richard

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Die durch Umgliederung der IV./JG 54 in eine Me 262 - Jagdgruppe (II./JG 7) freiwerdende 4. Staffel ist geschlossen Gen.Lt. Galland zur Aufstellung einer unter seiner Führung stehenden und dem JG 7 anzugleidernen Jagdstaffel Me 262 zur Verfügung zu stellen.

"The 4. [Staffel] — freed up by the conversion of IV. [Gruppe]/JG 54 into an Me 262 Jagdgruppe (II./JG 7) — is placed, as a complete unit, at the disposal of Gen.Lt. Galland for the establishment of an Me 262 Jagdstaffel under his leadership and attached to JG 7."

I think there's an ambiguity in that "4. Staffel" doesn't mean 4./JG 54 (part of the I. Gruppe) here but rather "the fourth Staffel of the IV. Gruppe" (i.e. 16./JG 54).

The reason for that is that JG 54's Gruppen had four Staffeln each while JG 7 was set up with only three per Gruppe but with gaps in the numbering to allow for a fourth. So the JG 7 structure was:

I. Gruppe: 1., 2. and 3./JG 7
II. Gruppe: 5., 6. and 7./JG 7
III. Gruppe: 9., 10. and 11./JG 7

So Galland was to get the Staffel that was surplus in the reorganisation. As to "geschlossen" in this context, it can mean "united" or "in a body" and I take that to mean here that Galland will get all the Staffel's elements: flying, technical, signals, admin. etc. You'll often see in other reorganisations that the pieces were split up and assigned to various units.

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Hi All,
in this context geschlossen means "as a whole". By the way German is my native tougue, so I'm not using those awful on line translators. Additionally I think the word "anzugleidernen" may not be spelled correctly could it be "anzugliedernen"?

You are correct Nick regarding the 4. Staffel explanation.

Regards,
Norbert

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Dear Nick and Norbert,

Thanks for your inputs. Norbert, you did catch me in a typo. The correct word is anzugliedernden. What does this mean and how does it affect the translation?:

"1.) Die durch Umgliederung der IV./JG 54 in eine Me 262 - Jagdgruppe (II./JG 7) freiwerdende 4. Staffel ist geschlossen Gen.Lt. Galland zur Aufstellung einer unter seiner Führung stehenden und dem JG 7 anzugliedernen Jagdstaffel Me 262 zur Verfügung zu stellen."

Robert Forsyth had taken the word geschlossen and interpreted it as follows:

"The use of the verb 'geschlossen' is more interesting, unusual and somewhat extreme! It infers that Galland was 'locked away', 'captive' - which, of course, effectively at that time he was. See also pg 105 of JV 44."

Thus, I was looking for a kinder treatment, but in this vein. It seems to be describing Galland, not the unit he was to set up. But then, the German language puts descriptors in the oddest places, so your interpretation Norbert of "as a whole" might be correct, but would need to be integrated elsewhere in an acceptable translation into English. What a devil of a statement to translate properly!!!

Regards,
Richard

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Well Norbert knows what he's talking about, being German (unlike you, me and Robert). In this sentence "geschlossen" is definitely not used an adjective in relation to Galland. If it was it would have a case ending, e.g. "die Staffel ... ist von dem geschlossenen Gen.Lt. Galland ... zur Verfügung zu stellen."

In this sentence it appears in its root form and is therefore an adverb, modifying the verb ("stellen").

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Hi Richard and Nick,
thanks for the kudos. With the correction of "anzugliedern" it implies that the unit is to be attached to the organisational structure of JG 7.

It could read as follows:

Through the reorganisation of IV./JG 54 into a Me 262 fighter group (II./JG 7) the vacated 4th squadron is to be made available in its entirety under the leadership of GenLt. Galland for the formation of a fighter squadron that is attached operationally to JG 7.

I hate those "wurm" sentences that the military used in those days!

Regards,
Norbert

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Dear Nick and Norbert,

Thank you for your very careful interpretive work! I really wasn't looking forward to denigrating Galland, even if the person who wrote this had a proverbial "bug up his ass".

Norbert, taking your interpretation, I'm slightly modifying it to:

"Through the reorganisation of IV./JG 54 into a Me 262 fighter group (II./JG 7), the vacated 4th squadron is to be made available in its entirety under the leadership of GenLt. Galland for the formation of an Me 262 fighter squadron that is attached operationally to JG 7."

Does this sound okay to the two of you?

Thanks to all of you who have assisted in deciphering what this difficult message is really saying.

Regards,
Richard

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"Vacated" isn't the word I'd go for in this context:

"The 4. Staffel — made redundant by the conversion of IV./JG 54 to an Me 262 Jagdgruppe (II./JG 7) — is placed, as a whole, at the disposal of Gen.Lt. Galland for the establishment of an Me 262 Jagdstaffel under his leadership and attached to JG 7."

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Nick,
you are the better wordsmith than me. This sounds good.

Regards,
Norbert

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Dear Nick and Norbert,

That sounds good to me, too. It explains the situation regarding the 4. Staffel, which would otherwise be lost.

Hopefully, we've chosen the correct interpretation of "geschlossen". At least we've given it our best, which is all that can be asked for. The intent when writing anything historical is that we capture the true meaning of what was intended, rather than creating false history.

I'm using the abstracts as the frontispiece for each document. The document still remains for subsequent reinterpretation.

Regards,
Richard

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Dear All,

One further thing about the NARA abstracts provided on-line of the T971 von Rohden holdings - they aren't necessarily correct or even close. For instance, I am currently working with document 4376-1218. The T971 abstract states:

Jan. 30- Mar. 13, 1945 – 4376/1218
Verteidigung des deutschen Ostraumes Correspondence and orders concerning air and antiaircraft defensive operations in the eastern territory of the Reich. Also, a list and dates of German camping on all fronts, 1939-45.

About the only thing accurate in the abstract is that there are a fair number of documents involved. As a bit of a clue, here are the titles of the first half dozen:

Nachtjagd zum Schutz Bremens (23.2.45)

Mistel-Abstellplätze (25.2.45)

Stand der Verlegung Kommando Götz nach Italien und Einsatzkommando 1.(F)/3 nach Norwegen (26.2.45)

Zahl Vorlage für Herrn Reichsmarschall (covers a number of subjects) (27.2.45)

Schutz von Sonderflugzeugen (22. or 28.2.45)

I. Vorschlag: sämtliche Jagd-Verbände mit Panzer-Blitz auszurüsten &
II. Vorschlag: SO-Leute mit Strahlern zum Rammen feindlicher Verbandeführer-Flugzeug einzugetzen (27.2.45)

One common thread is the tightness of the dates - late Feb. 1945. I'm still working my way through it. It's going to be tough to find a concise descriptor of what this document is all about.

Regards,
Richard

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Hi Richard,
I cam across the same issues at the Bundesarchiv in Freiburg. At least 30% of the records I looked at contained other documents not pertaining to the contents description.

Regards,
Norbert