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jarecki71 31st December 2013 15:43

Me 210 lost in Pommern need help.
 
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Hi all,
Looking for information about the crew aircraft Me 210 which lost in Ragenthin - Woldenberg.
A short history of the local people ...
The plane was strafed by Soviet antiaircraft artillery, was hit in the engine plane losing altitude dropped two more bombs then cutting a few trees fell into the lake with a crew .....
Wreck was penetrated by the local population and fishermen, not much about this aircraft has been, but managed to establish only so much that this is the Me 210.
Maybe to determine the fate of this aircraft is to say., Werknumber, the names of the crew, unit.
Best Regards,
Jarek

Happy New Year :)

Crimea River 3rd January 2014 06:21

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A date would be helpful.

jarecki71 3rd January 2014 10:40

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Hi,
It is difficult to establish the exact date, in my opinion, the Soviet army operated in the region 28 January to 15 February 1945. If the plane was actually shot down by AA
I have another question unless specifically Me 210 missing in Pomerania in 1945, and how many machines Me 410?
Best Regards,
Jarek

Merlin 3rd January 2014 18:37

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Hi,

the only unit equipped with the Me 410 in that area early 1945 was 5.(F)/122.

The unit reported the Me 410B-3 WNr. 150165 F6+RH (taken over from 1.(F)/122) as lost under unknown cirumstances on a reconnaissance mission on 12.02.45. The crew (no names given in the report) is missing.

Recceswind 4th January 2014 01:55

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Hi,

Other possibilities:
- 16 Apr 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420489, 3U+NM, 4./ZG 26, destroyed by enemy a/c near Pyritz,
- 28 Jun 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420464, 3U+AM, 4./ZG 26, lost near Stettin (there are several Me 210/410 losses near Stettin),
- 23 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190162, F6+NN, 5.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Insterburg area,
-24 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190176, F6+AH, 1.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Posen/Poznan area.

Regards

Brian Bines 4th January 2014 12:34

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There is the loss of Me410A-3 w.n 170151 on 25-02-45, shown as operating under Luftflotte 6 of stab/FAGr. 3. Crew Ff Lt Paul Slindon and Bf Uffz Rulf Neun both killed, no location shown.

Matti Salonen 4th January 2014 12:54

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FF was Paul Blindow and BF Reinhold Neun.

Matti

Merlin 4th January 2014 13:09

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post #6 and #7: this aircraft crashed at Parchim airbase.

Brian Bines 4th January 2014 13:38

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Matti and Merlin thanks for corrections,

Regards

Brian Bines

Stig Jarlevik 4th January 2014 14:48

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Brian/Matti

With regard to the Me 410 in your post #6 and 7 can you check the WNr please? According to Petrick this was WNr 170151 NE+QS.

B Rgds
Stig

Brian Bines 4th January 2014 15:16

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Stig have checked on GQM loss list page 3 of 4th-Mar-45 and magnifying up the correct w.n. is 170151,

Regards

Brian Bines

Stig Jarlevik 4th January 2014 16:29

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Thanks Brian

In a way that was a relief.... :-)

Cheers
Stig

jarecki71 4th January 2014 18:10

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Hi all,
Gentlemen, thank you very much! Very valuable information.
I think that soon, the puzzle will be solved.
Best Regards,
Jarek

Brian Bines 4th January 2014 23:26

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In the available Luft.GQM lists for 1945 two Me210's of the Hungarian Fast Bomber Group are show with minor damage at Lesvar airfield. If this aircraft was a Me210 is there the slightest possibility that a Hungarian 210 could have been lost in the Pommern area ?

Recceswind 5th January 2014 14:57

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Not possible... (800 km between Pomerania and Hungary)

RT 30th December 2014 14:25

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Where hv you found all these ones ??

Other possibilities:
- 16 Apr 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420489, 3U+NM, 4./ZG 26, destroyed by enemy a/c near Pyritz,
- 28 Jun 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420464, 3U+AM, 4./ZG 26, lost near Stettin (there are several Me 210/410 losses near Stettin),
- 23 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190162, F6+NN, 5.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Insterburg area,
-24 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190176, F6+AH, 1.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Posen/Poznan area.

Rémi

jarecki71 30th December 2014 17:00

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Hi Remi,
Thanks,
The plane is identified as the Me 210
Shot down by AA, probably in February or March 1945
The area Rathentin 60 km., Northeast of Landsberg, 50 km to the south of Arnswalde.
The plane was flying from the airport probably Schneidemuhl
Best Regards,
Jarek

RT 30th December 2014 17:40

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In fact question was for "Reccewinds" ..

Concerning Devau a lot of flights are recorded related to supply sent to Finnland, I do hv something about them

Rémi

Recceswind 10th January 2015 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jarecki71 (Post 194080)
The plane was flying from the airport probably Schneidemuhl

It couldn't have been an aircraft from Schneidemuhl. That airfield was abandoned on January 26, 1945 (or just a few days later).
In my opinion 1944 loss is more probable.

jarecki71 6th July 2015 22:01

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Hi all,
I'm sorry but I have to freshen up an old topic.
So, I found two plates. Please help in decoded what elements they come from.
Second, in my view from the radiator cover?
All plates are from Me210, I have not found anything that has to do with Me410.
Best regards,
Jarek

Karsten 8th January 2016 10:58

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The Identification number from my database is B5 + AA

Rüdiger

jarecki71 21st August 2017 21:58

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Hi all,
I found on the two pieces of metal plates written numbers. The numbers were probably painted 3116 Can it be WNr? Or perhaps the sheet supplier? Surely these are elements from Me 210
Best regards,
Jarek

Mr Schmitt 22nd August 2017 11:09

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Hi Jarek.
3116 is the aluminium material Grade stencilled or printed on the sheet to identify its hardness etc.
Best Regards
Edward

jarecki71 22nd August 2017 11:24

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Hi Edward,
Thanks for the information, I also thought in that direction.
Rather, it will be difficult to ascertain any data on this aircraft.
Best regards,
Jarek

Tony Kambic 22nd August 2017 14:52

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Here's a couple images of the NASM He219 inside the wings through removed panels showing the 3116 markings.


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