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Me 210 lost in Pommern need help.
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Hi all,
Looking for information about the crew aircraft Me 210 which lost in Ragenthin - Woldenberg. A short history of the local people ... The plane was strafed by Soviet antiaircraft artillery, was hit in the engine plane losing altitude dropped two more bombs then cutting a few trees fell into the lake with a crew ..... Wreck was penetrated by the local population and fishermen, not much about this aircraft has been, but managed to establish only so much that this is the Me 210. Maybe to determine the fate of this aircraft is to say., Werknumber, the names of the crew, unit. Best Regards, Jarek Happy New Year :) |
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A date would be helpful.
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Hi,
It is difficult to establish the exact date, in my opinion, the Soviet army operated in the region 28 January to 15 February 1945. If the plane was actually shot down by AA I have another question unless specifically Me 210 missing in Pomerania in 1945, and how many machines Me 410? Best Regards, Jarek |
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Hi,
the only unit equipped with the Me 410 in that area early 1945 was 5.(F)/122. The unit reported the Me 410B-3 WNr. 150165 F6+RH (taken over from 1.(F)/122) as lost under unknown cirumstances on a reconnaissance mission on 12.02.45. The crew (no names given in the report) is missing. |
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Hi,
Other possibilities: - 16 Apr 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420489, 3U+NM, 4./ZG 26, destroyed by enemy a/c near Pyritz, - 28 Jun 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420464, 3U+AM, 4./ZG 26, lost near Stettin (there are several Me 210/410 losses near Stettin), - 23 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190162, F6+NN, 5.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Insterburg area, -24 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190176, F6+AH, 1.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Posen/Poznan area. Regards |
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There is the loss of Me410A-3 w.n 170151 on 25-02-45, shown as operating under Luftflotte 6 of stab/FAGr. 3. Crew Ff Lt Paul Slindon and Bf Uffz Rulf Neun both killed, no location shown.
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Re: Me 210 lost in Pommern need help.
FF was Paul Blindow and BF Reinhold Neun.
Matti |
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post #6 and #7: this aircraft crashed at Parchim airbase.
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Matti and Merlin thanks for corrections,
Regards Brian Bines |
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Brian/Matti
With regard to the Me 410 in your post #6 and 7 can you check the WNr please? According to Petrick this was WNr 170151 NE+QS. B Rgds Stig |
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Stig have checked on GQM loss list page 3 of 4th-Mar-45 and magnifying up the correct w.n. is 170151,
Regards Brian Bines |
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Thanks Brian
In a way that was a relief.... :-) Cheers Stig |
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Hi all,
Gentlemen, thank you very much! Very valuable information. I think that soon, the puzzle will be solved. Best Regards, Jarek |
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In the available Luft.GQM lists for 1945 two Me210's of the Hungarian Fast Bomber Group are show with minor damage at Lesvar airfield. If this aircraft was a Me210 is there the slightest possibility that a Hungarian 210 could have been lost in the Pommern area ?
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Not possible... (800 km between Pomerania and Hungary)
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Where hv you found all these ones ??
Other possibilities: - 16 Apr 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420489, 3U+NM, 4./ZG 26, destroyed by enemy a/c near Pyritz, - 28 Jun 44, Me 410, W.Nr. 420464, 3U+AM, 4./ZG 26, lost near Stettin (there are several Me 210/410 losses near Stettin), - 23 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190162, F6+NN, 5.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Insterburg area, -24 Jan 45, Me 410, W.Nr. 190176, F6+AH, 1.(F)/122, MIA while on mission in Posen/Poznan area. Rémi |
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Hi Remi,
Thanks, The plane is identified as the Me 210 Shot down by AA, probably in February or March 1945 The area Rathentin 60 km., Northeast of Landsberg, 50 km to the south of Arnswalde. The plane was flying from the airport probably Schneidemuhl Best Regards, Jarek |
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In fact question was for "Reccewinds" ..
Concerning Devau a lot of flights are recorded related to supply sent to Finnland, I do hv something about them Rémi |
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In my opinion 1944 loss is more probable. |
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Hi all,
I'm sorry but I have to freshen up an old topic. So, I found two plates. Please help in decoded what elements they come from. Second, in my view from the radiator cover? All plates are from Me210, I have not found anything that has to do with Me410. Best regards, Jarek |
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The Identification number from my database is B5 + AA
Rüdiger |
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Hi all,
I found on the two pieces of metal plates written numbers. The numbers were probably painted 3116 Can it be WNr? Or perhaps the sheet supplier? Surely these are elements from Me 210 Best regards, Jarek |
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Hi Jarek.
3116 is the aluminium material Grade stencilled or printed on the sheet to identify its hardness etc. Best Regards Edward |
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Hi Edward,
Thanks for the information, I also thought in that direction. Rather, it will be difficult to ascertain any data on this aircraft. Best regards, Jarek |
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Here's a couple images of the NASM He219 inside the wings through removed panels showing the 3116 markings.
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