eBay: Two Bf 109 G
 

http://www.ebay.de/itm/KLASSE-FOTO-K...item338981ca0b

G-6/R6/Trop JG 53?? in Italy considering the driver fatigue. Can be JG 3 too ...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-MES...item35d0886f6b

Not a Bf 109F as captioned by seller. Nothing more, but a new one, for sure... Looks like North Africa. Hmmm AGr. ???

Regards, Franck.

Re: eBay: Two Bf 109 G
 

The first would seem to be JG 53. Many of their a/c from the period have that "homemade" spiral on the spinner (crude! alert to modelers!). I do not recall any JG 3 in that period having that. But, of course, I could be wrong!

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Me too John, me too .... :)

Anyway, the JG 53 emblem is visible just under the branches. 1943 ...

Thanks John.

Regards, Franck.

Re: eBay: Two Bf 109 G
 

Hey Franck,

Thanks for the links! I concur absolutely for the first pic except for the JG 53 emblem: nothing to be seen under the branches, alas..

As for the second, it's either a Bf 109 G-2 or G-4; looks very much to be found in North Africa, given the landscape and the background Baltimore ;-))

Cheers
Marc

Re: eBay: Two Bf 109 G
 

Gents,

and the first one obviously is equipped as "Trop" - just by the way...

Best Regards
Norbert

Re: eBay: Two Bf 109 G
 

I wrote G-6/R6/Trop, didn't I?

Can be Malta too, Marc ...
They got one down there from 2.(H)/14 but I don't know the number, over painted I think.

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Aha, interesting, Franck: in this case, it can be the same machine as this one:

An ex-Bf 109 G-2/Trop of 2.(H)/14 repainted by the members of No. 232 Wing SAAF Photo : Howard Levy, via Alfred Monzat, German airplanes from the second world war Group, Facebook.com, 8 January 2013.

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There were two Bf 109 G-2 in SAAF service at Gerbini, in the Summer and Autumn of 1943. Thanks to Alfred Monzat, over on Facebook.com, I now have the pics of those two machines which were published in the Fanatique de l'Aviation 468, giving us the location.

Cheers
Marc

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Hi Marc,

I know that one.
But no, the one I'm talking about was "Captured" on Malta island since he landed down there 1942-1943. Intact.
In 1945, it was still on Malta Island, intact. Kept german markings and emblem but I'm sure the camouflage has been re-done by English; one-of-a-kind!!!

Cheers, Franck.

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Nature's game?

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Wow, your eyesight is splendid! Great! Thanks!

Marc

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Hi Guys,

Back on Black 21 +.
Gerbini (Platz Nr. 9) - Three "Platz" in Gerbini area: Nr. 1, Nr.6-Rammacca & Nr.9.
G-4/Trop WNr.15189 Engine Nr.37178, beschädigt (sic).
BUT no unit given!!! and no emblem on eBay photo.

Black 13 + (JACK+AX) Not in the list!!?? Corrected on 14/02/14

Last, in a previous post Marc wrote: Two G-2 found at "Gerbini":
Well:
Platz Nr. 1: Nine Bf 109 G-6s
Platz Nr. 6: Two G-4/Trop; Nine G-6; Two "G" destroyed.
Platz Nr. 9: One G-4; Four G-4/Trop; Two G-4/R3 of 1.(F)/122; Six G-6 and Four Gs (Three destroyed "ausgebrannt", one "Schrott")

That's all.


Regards, Franck.

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Merci Franck!

A good start for sure.. so many planes to track down the road. Glad to known more about "Schwarze 15" and its context.

Thanks
Marc

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The funny thing is that SAAF is just talking about one or two planes; i.e. those they wanted to use (one Bf 109, one Fw 190), only those and nothing about the rest they met on place ...

Now the figure is a little bit more complete concerning the Bf 109s.