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stefaan 26th February 2014 11:22

Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Hi guys.
Can anybody help me with which Bf 109 Units were caught on the ground at the base at Sidi Resegh (LG153) on the 19/11/41 when the base was over run by the 7th Armoured Brigade.
Thx a mil
Stefaan

AndreasB 26th February 2014 13:08

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
That's easy. None. They were Italian planes only, AFAICR Fiat G.50.

All the best

Andreas

udf_00 26th February 2014 13:17

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
20° Gruppo C.T. (151.a, 352.a & 353.a Squadriglie) lost 18 G.50s at Sidi Rezegh on 19 NOV 1941.

stefaan 26th February 2014 13:33

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Thx a mil.
Stefaan

Stig Jarlevik 27th February 2014 10:59

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
udf

According to Chris Shores and Giovanni Massimello only 16 G.50 were captured/destroyed at Sidi R. From where is your report of 18?

Cheers
Stig

AndreasB 27th February 2014 11:36

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
I find it a bit confusing. According to Michele in an email, 2 G.50 are destroyed earlier in the day by a fighter strafing attack by South African Tomahawks, with others damaged. He then gives 16 as total number lost, but it's not clear to me if this means 16+2 or whether it's 16 in total.

All the best

Andreas

udf_00 27th February 2014 12:50

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
http://www.amazon.ca/Combat-Units-Re.../dp/187118701X
p.29 :
"On 19 November a commando raid on Sidi Rezegh cost them 18 G50s, and five more on 22 December at Agedabia."
The book is rather synthetic, hence could be misleading at times (exemple : commando raid).

AndreasB 27th February 2014 15:53

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
That refers specifically to the G.50, right? Otherwise the Agedabia number is way off.

All the best

Andreas

Stig Jarlevik 27th February 2014 19:06

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Yes the strafing attack is acknowleged by Shores and Massimello but since only 16 G.50 were captured and destroyed when the airfield was overrun, what the SAAF claimed must be included in the total.

Cheers
Stig

stefaan 27th February 2014 19:46

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Hi Guys.
The reason I asked is that I have a poor quality photo of a Bf 109F Yellow 12 with black outline that was marked as Sidi Rezegh on the back.
It must have been a Luftwaffe base near it. The nose cowl is off, so no info there. Also no date but looks like winter clothes. That means that it could not have been on the base when it was over run by the 7 Div.
Stefaan

AndreasB 27th February 2014 22:57

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Neither Gambut nor El Adem were that far away.

All the best

Andreas

ouidjat 28th February 2014 06:02

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Hi Gents,

That's funny this "no LW aircrafts" in Sidi Rezzegh.
This is not the first SAAF 1°Sqdn photo captioned "Sidi Rezzegh".

You can find them on SAAF - Yola - site. (Don't remember the link)
Maybe it wasn't Sidi Rezzegh after all ...

And, the existing "Sidi Rezzegh" photos show a II.JG 27 machine, a "Weisse 9" actualy.

Regards, Franck.

ouidjat 28th February 2014 09:16

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
http://saafww2photographs.yolasite.com/tom-meek-3.php

For example on Tom Meek album you can find G-50 And Bf 109 on other pilots' albums, place is different even if photo is the same!
It dépends who wrote his own caption/souvenir.

AndreasB 28th February 2014 13:23

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Great album. Do you have one with a 109 claimed to be there?

All the best

Andreas

TBaldwin 28th February 2014 16:43

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Hello Sir,
I sent you a PM, was wondering if you received it?

Regards,
Tom

udf_00 28th February 2014 17:06

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Quote:

That refers specifically to the G.50, right? Otherwise the Agedabia number is way off.
That refers specifically to 20° Gruppo.

http://saafww2photographs.yolasite.com/tom-meek-3.php
20) Unflattering cartoon on shot up E.A. Sidi Rezzegh
http://saafww2photographs.yolasite.com/tom-meek-1.php
28) Billy H?????, shot down + killed near Tobruck 13/2/42.
w 9 + -, 4./JG 27 ?

AndreasB 28th February 2014 17:27

Re: Luftwaffe Units at Sidi Resegh, Nov '41.
 
Ah thanks. Clear the wreck is supposed to be on Sidi Rezegh. Not at all clear whether it was lost on 19 November. Could have been there for a while.

All the best

Andreas


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