Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Full AGO history from 1909 to 1950, but focuses on 1934 to 1950.

Armament economy- how it worked

All previously unknown AGO-Projects (7), but may be 5 according to a recent post.

All about AGO192V-1, AGO192V-2 and BV and Ao225

All license aircraft made by AGO

All air raids at Oschersleben

The battle of Oschersleben

AGO/ REIMAHG history and the Me262 production

Detailed description of Test pilotś work

All AGO losses at airfield and aera Oschersleben

All Luftwaffe Losses in the same area

Sources: 1934- 1950 only original sources, archives, records of the AGO design office (Klages himself) and Test Pilots, interviews and reports".

You can buy this fascinating book from 18th August and can track it from:

http://dr-ziethen-verlag.eshop.t-onl...-3-86289-078-1

Here are some more input from the author, René Scheer:
- my book is including a detailed english summary for foreign customers,- all about the famous (but still unknown) designer Paul Klages,- all about his seven projects at AGO,- coloured profiles from the Ao 192 V1, V2, Q3, Q4, Q5, C and Ao 225.- all about the Ao 225. The perfect grafics are made by M. Hundt







Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Ed,

Sounds interesting. Thanks for the alert.

Regards,
Richard

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Richard,



You're welcome.




Best,
Ed

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Ed,
thank you very much for the presentation of my book.

To explain the seven/ five projects:
P. Klages designed seven projects at AGO, inclusive Ao 225 and
the better known Ao 192. Five of these seven are previously unknown.

Hope you and the TOCH-member will like it!

Sincerely
R. Scheer

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Mr. Scheer,




You're welcome. I wish you much success with this book.



Regards,

Ed West

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear friends,
here is an update about my book (it´s is including a detailed english summary for foreign customers) and some pictures.

http://dr-ziethen-verlag.eshop.t-onl...-3-86289-078-1


Regards
René Scheer

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear friends,

yesterday the book was officially presented at BMW Schubert Motors in Oschersleben.

We had more than 130 visitors.

The publisher had already sold 600 books, even in to many european contries.

Overwhelming...

Thanks for your interest!!!

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear All,

Has anyone bought this book on-line? I just ordered it, fully expecting to reach a method of payment page, but it never showed up. Nor was the price adjusted for shipping and handling to the U.S. There was a statement I had to click to say I'd read the terms and conditions, but I never found such a page, so went blindly ahead. I've sent a note to the publisher asking for clarification. Can anyone give me a heads up on this?

Regards,
Richard

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Richard,
I´ll try and ask the publisher about this problem.
I´ll write as soon as possible.
Regards
René

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Richard, and other:
try this:
1. click 1 item into "In den Warenkorb"
2. top right: "Warenkorb anzeigen"
3. click "Zur Kasse"
4. top "Ohne Registrierung bestellen"
5. Complete all lines, choose your country (because of shipping)
6. "weiter" and "Bestellung abschließen"

if this not work:

send a simple mail to the publisher:
- see top right at the "Startseite"- click "Kontakt" : he needs to know, what book, how many, your country and your adress.

All right?

Regards
René

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear René,

I think I did all of that, or at least most of it. Still, I never got to where it asked me how I wanted to pay for it. I did actually place the order and got an acknowledgement. I then replied, asking about payment. So far, no answer. What I really want to avoid is getting an invoice wanting payment in Euros. My preferred method of payment is by credit card or PayPal, where the payment can be made in the seller's currency. Trying to otherwise pay a bill in Euros from the U.S. is nigh on impossible for me.

Regards,
Richard

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Richard,
the publisher usually sents a bill.
Please send him a mail ("Kontakt")with your order and suggestion (paying with credit card or PayPal). I think he will answer.
If all this not work, send me an e-mail to ago-buch@gmx.de.
I´ll try and help you personally.
Thank you for your interest.
Glad to know, that my book will be read in the US...

Regards
Rene

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear René,

I called Dr. Ziethen. We had difficulty communicating because of the language difference, each of us only being able to speak in the other's language very brokenly. As you say, your book will come with a bill. Dr. Ziethen suggests a bank transfer. I can give it a try, but my bank in the past has been a real nightmare to deal with with such. Hopefully, things have changed since.

Dr. Ziethen's business appears to be quite small, with only 3 people in the office. From what I can tell, they have not set up to handle payments by credit card nor PayPal, which will potentially hinder sales in the U.S.

The only easy U.S. option would be to order the book through an intermediary such as Christian-Schmidt, which does offer payment by credit card. And Gabi there speaks fluent English. Had I known that this was going to happen, I'd have gone this route.

Thanks for all of your help.

Regards,
Richard

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Richard,
so use my other suggestion:
ago-buch@gmx.de
And we manage this together, I send you one of my books and
you can pay with PayPal: you´ll get your book and it will be signed, too.
Okay?
Regards
René

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear René,

I contacted you by e-mail. Unfortunately, my regional bank, although large, doesn't sell International drafts. Whether they provide wire transfers, I'm not sure, but such can cost $45, which is exorbitant, considering the price of the book.

Since Dr. Ziethen has already shipped the book to me, perhaps I can pay you by PayPal after I get his invoice and you can then pay this amount to him, completing the transaction.

Others here in the U.S. may find themselves in the same situation. Until and unless Dr. Ziethen Verlag creates a method to pay on-line, I would strongly recommend to others that they order the book through Christian-Schmidt.

Regards,
Richard

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Richard,
I´m sorry about this, but you´ll get your book, I´ve asked: it´s on the way to you.

Of course you can pay your book with PayPal.
Use the adress wich I´ve sent you via email.

@ all US-Customers
The Publisher is creating now a better method to pay for orders from the USA.
You´re absolutely right: the costs for wire transfers are exorbitant.
Today we´ll speak about this problem again and I´ll write about the solution of the problem.
Until then, all USA orders can run via my private PayPal account.
Please contact me before ordering via email ( ago-buch@gmx.de ).
Thank you

Sincerely
René

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Another outlet:


http://www.christian-schmidt.com/pro...5mif9l2q9uadk7




Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Mr. Scheer,
Can we find in your book some information about a pilot, Uffz.Altenburg who have a victory the 22/02/1944 ?
Thanks
Fredo

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Fredo,
Uffz. Altenburg is known as testpilot at AGO, because of less information, I have no further information in my book about him.

But I have written in this book a lot about other test pilots.


What about this victory?

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Mr. Scheer,
Thanks for your answer. In fact, i would like to know if you have information, but aparently not, about these pilot because a another Uffz.Altenburg (Walter) is known on the Kanal front during 1941-43, and i wanted to know if he could be the same person.
Merci,
Fredo

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Fredo,
Altenburg came to AGO in the middle of 1944. I was in contact to some former testpilots when I have started the research for my book- but nobody of them did remember the first name of Altenburg. I´m sorry.
René

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Thanks so much.
Fredo

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear all
I got the book from Amazon.de
very quick and easy to do.
regards
Francesco Dubaldo

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Review- Update from
http://luftwaffereviews.blogspot.de/...rumpf-zur.html

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Congratulations. As someone who works in the book publishing industry, I know what it's like to receive such praise. By the way, I was unaware of a few of the other books mentioned in the review.



Regards,
Ed West

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Unfortunately the review you quote AGO is very uninterested in the WW 1 and earlier period....

I felt rather disappointed in the extremely bad coverage of this period which leaves the initial time frame and the true legacy of Otto very much unanswered. Must confess I had hopes for a lot more!!

Cheers
Stig

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Mr Jarlevik,
thank you for your expression- but your criticism is a little general and inconcrete.

First of all, I've always written explicitly ( like Ed West did,too: see post #1 this thread): the focus of my book is on the second epoch of AGO from 1934 to 1950.



And that is what they praise on this review, and in the reviews by M. Wunderlich in the german flight magazine “Flugzeug Classic” 12/2014 and by Colonel W. Göbel in the latest “Fliegerblatt”.

The first epoch is to be understood as an introductory chapter, because there are enough publications on this subject.



Nevertheless, I am convinced that your conclusion is not valid. You wrote about
"extremely bad coverage of this period which leaves the initial time frame and the true legacy of Otto (is) very much unanswered."

You are absolutely the first one who leaves such a bad review.


And if you mean the English summary: I agree. It is, what it is: only a summary.
But if you mean the german text I don´t agree with you.


I have mentioned the story of Gustav Otto, all his businesses (Otto Werke and AGO, A.G.O. and Ago) and his aircrafts. Only for example: You knew before about Roald Amundsen and the flight expedition, did you seen a photo of an Otto No.1 before, did you knew about the difference between an AGO C I and “it´s brother” the Otto C I or the different meanings of acronyms AGO?



If no - this period is not extremely bad coveraged.

If yes, please, be fair, say exactly what you want - and I´ll see, if I can fulfill your desire for a next edition.

Thank you.
Sincerely
René Scheer

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear René

Sorry about my late answer since I have been away for two weeks.

First of all, I have not written any review of your book. I simply state an opinion! Quite a big difference....

You have written a book about AGO which on the front page claims 'Vom Gitterrumpf zur Me 262. In my world that means you write as much as you can about everything there is known about that subject. The book contains 312 pages of which 17 pages deals with the 'Gitterrumpf' period. The WW 1 period gets three of those pages!!
In my hand I have a booklet Windsock Datafile 75 by P M Grosz dealing with the AGO C.I which is on 33 pages. That alone should tell you why I consider the 'Gitterrumpf' period badly covered

I have unfortunately very little material on the companies started by Otto, which was the reason I bought your book. For instance are all Otto/AGO's types delt with/illustrated? Answer is no. Where is material about the AGO C.IV for example? I would also have loved to get an overview of all serial numbers given to AGO and Otto aircraft built.

I admit I know more about AGO and Otto than before I bought your book, but I had expected more. Much more. You mention that the 'Gitterrumpf' period has seen enough publications already. Where are those publications?
Beside the Windsock booklet I have only small bits and pieces.

Cheers
Stig

PS: I also miss Appendices summarising for example the production made by AGO during the 1930s and '40s.

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Mr. Jarlevik,
Thank you, but I do not want cite myself: it´s an introductory chapter, focus is on 1934 to 1950. Quite a big difference,too.

The P. M. Grosz-C.I-book is is no correkt comparison: he has more than 18 full-pages with photos with discription, and 6 pages full-page drawings.
The pure text is not more comprehensive than with mine.
You should not only count pages...

And because of the focus, the first nine chapters are as they are.

Your question for serial numbers is a good note for another edition. I think I´ll make a list of all AGO/Otto types as an overview.

To your last two questions:
For publications, please, take a look at page 302: 14 books or booklets listed.

The production made by AGO during the 1930s and '40´s is shown detailed in the text.

That´s it. Prost!
Sincerely
R. Scheer

@ all members, aviation friends and readers of my book:
Have a nice holiday season, merry christmas and all my best whishes for 2015!

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

René Scheer,

Perhaps you could contact Jack Herris of Aeronaut Books (http://www.aeronautbooks.com/) about working with him on a book on the AGO aircraft of World War 1. Jack has been producing a series of books titled the Great War Aviation Centennial. Each volume covers a type of aircraft, or a manufacturer. Photographs, side view drawings, color side views of camouflage and markings, serial number blocks, with text. I have several of them.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Frank (and René)

A very good idea indeed!

Hallo again René

It seems we are not getting very far since we have different opinions. All I can say is that I wished for much more details regarding the early and original AGO/Otto period, not chasing other works. BTW there is only one single source (beside Grosz) on page 302 which has a direct relevance to Otto and that is a rather obscure museum publication.

While we are it, do you have a production list of the AGO 192 which you can share among us, including WNr etc? I admit I have not yet gone through the relevant type's pages so it may be within the text, but still....:)

Cheers
Stig

PS: Merry Christmas to one and all

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Frank,
Thank you, but I think I'll go on with my publisher.
Regards
René Scheer

Re: Die AGO-Flugzeugwerke in Oschersleben
 

Dear Mr. Jarlevik,
in fact, all Ao 192 information, you have asked for, are answered in the text.
So please, use the book first...

And please note: There are no obscure publications listed.
Sincerely
René Scheer