Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Hope this helps.

http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/korea/reports/air/



Ed

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Been there seen that. I would say it has about 99% of US losses but there are gaps in the FAA losses.

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Perhaps this site can help. The FAA is at the bottom of the page.


http://www.militaryarchiveresearch.c...ations.htm#FAA




Ed

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

An older title but I hope this helps.


http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wings-over.../dp/1585443409





Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Another book that looks useful.


http://www.lulu.com/shop/douglas-e-c...-21322828.html





Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

And here is mention of a post-war study I had not heard of before.


"Many years after the war, a study by the U.S. Air Force, code named Sabre Measure Charlie, downgraded the F-86 Sabre-versus-MiG-15 “kill ratio” from more than 14 to 1 to a revised figure of 7 to 1. The latter figure remains the best achievement in any fighter campaign in history prior to Operation Desert Storm."


Source: http://www.koreanwar60.com/air-force



Ed

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

U.S. Navy, U.S. Marine Corps and Mats Aircraft Lost During the Korean War
http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Corps-A...sap_bc?ie=UTF8

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Didn't the F6F and Finnish B-239s have a better ratio?

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Fighter v Fighter, I am not so sure. The F6F had the advantage of outnumbering an inexperienced & technically outclassed force but the Sabers were not only outnumbered, (at least, early on ) but I think a MiG-15 actually had a technical advantage on the Saber (operational ceiling, I think?);

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

It is a little complicate in the case of Sabers vs Mig-15, on the one hand Sabers were outnumbered by Mig-15s, but on the hand, since Soviet Mig-15s were not allowed to operate beyond the Chinese-Korean border region, so Sabers usually hold the initiative, they can choose where to hit and when to strike

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Also most MiG15 losses were flown by non Soviet pilots who were not as well trained as Soviet pilots.

Russian Aces over Korea

http://acepilots.com/russian/rus_aces.html

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Well, Chinese Air forces was largely a fledgling forces that was unable operate independently, and that was the reason they usually did not operate beyond the border area, so called "MIg Valley", though it was very much possible that Chinese and North Korean suffered higher losses rate per operations, the majority of Mig-15 encounter by Sabers were flew by Soviet pilots

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Well not sure how much of an advantage that gave the Sabers if the Mig force could loiter over the border several thousand feet above the Sabers and the Sabers usually had the issue of fuel as well. Did either side/both sides have ground control radar?

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

What the chance hundreds of Mig-15 "loiter over the border several thousand feet" everyday whether Sabers come or not? More likely, there were only a few Mig-15s on alert, others would scramble up when their radar detect US aircrafts coming. So Sabers can choose when and where to fight, if they choose not to enter Mig Alley, then there would be no fight, when they choose to enter the Mig Alley, then they could choose the position they want to hit, Mig-15s had to defend the entire border regions and the Chinese army's supply routes across China-Korea border, if they won a dog fight with Mig-15s, they could pursuit across the Chinese border, if they loss, they only need to leave the Mig Alley area, and MIg-15 would not pursuit outside border region, and if the operational Sabers became low, they can simply stay in their base safely refit and recover without risking being attacked, hence they held the initiative.

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IMHO both had, UN forces occupied some islands off the North Korean coast and had ships with radar stationed off the North Korean coast.

Juha

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Here's a bit on radar.


http://www.koreanwar.org/html/bookst...okstore_id=276





Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

A recent book:

The Last War of the Superfortresses: MiG-15 vs B-29 over Korea



https://www.amazon.com/Last-War-Supe...korean+war+mig










Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Why can't I get this link to work ?
http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/korea/reports/air/

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Don't think DTIC does that anymore.

Try here for the pdf. Scroll down just a bit an hit the download button. Then the painful jump thru the download hoops, but the site will eventually cough it up. All 239 pages.

https://dokumen.tips/documents/korea...-military.html

Re: Korean War Aircraft Loss Database
 

Many many thanks,
It has all that the old one had, except that there was a search facility where one could search by a/c type, date or name. This has all details but for instance if searching a B29 crew ,would have to search right through to find all crew names.
Anyway again my thanks
Alex

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American USAF claims over Korea were extremely suspect. Recent research reduces the ratio to around 2:1. The desire to claim a massive superiority over the "Commies" plus some old-fashioned ace race competition led to ridiculous levels of kills being awarded on very dubious evidence.