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ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Can anyone detail the claims by GC 1/7, 350th Fighter Group and 143 Squadron over convoy KMF26 on the above date.
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Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Chris,
I have claims by 43 (Ju-88 off Capua), 145 (Me 210, SW of Termoli to 8 m S of Vasto), 111 (Me 190F/G), and 153 (He-177 40 m NW of Djdjelli; He-177 off Djdjelli; He 177 10 m NNE of Djdjelli; 2 He 177 dam 5 m SW of Djdjelli). But nothing by 143. Typo for 153? I/7 (no times available to me for any of these) FW 200 dam, area of Baie de Bougie, Cne Pierre Simard, Spitfire Vb, ref: Porret & Thevenet (no time given) FW 200 dam, area of Baie de Bougie, Cne Michael Dorance+Sgt Chef Fargeu, Spitfire Vb, ref: GC I/7 vlist; 7e Escadre He 177 dam, Bay of Bougie and area, S/Lt Maurice Tallent, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist Do 217 dam, area of Baie de Bougie, Cne Michel Madon, Spitfire Vb, ref: GC I/7 vlist; 7e Escadre Do 217 dam, Bay of Bougie and surroundings, Lt Raoul Rebière, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist FW 200 prob, Baie de Bougie et environs, Madon, ref: GC I/7 vlist Do 217 prob, Baie de Bougie et environs, Lt Roger Perrier+S/Lt Charles Leroy, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist FW 200 dest, Baie de Bougie et environs, Leroy, ref: GC I/7 vlist FW 200 dest, Baie de Bougie et environs, Perrier, ref: GC I/7 vlist Do 217 dest, Baie de Bougie et environs, Lt Guy Bouttier, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist Do 217 dest, Bay of Bougie and surroundings, Rebière, ref: GC I/7 vlist; 7e Escadre 350 FG nothing 414 NFS He 177 dest, 1615-9999, off Bougie, 2/Lt Francis B Clark+?/Lt Abraham M Goodman (radar op)+?/Lt Allemand (radio op), Beaufighter VIF, ref: SqnHis: A0800/0688 Enjoy! Frank. |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Thanks Frank-most enlightening! It was a typo for 153-any names for the successful pilots? The French claims for Fw 200s must have been misidentified He 177s
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Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Chris,
153 Sqn,Nov 26, 1943 1711 He 177 dest, 40 m NW of Djdjelli, F/O T Froggatt+Sgt J S Williams, Beau VIf BT295, ref: ORB; CR: Air 27/1031-124&125 1712 He 177 dest, off Djdjelli, F/Sgt Kenneth Frank Boulton+W/O R T S Hoile, Beau VIf MM811, ref: ORB; CR: Air 27/1031-123 1720 He 177 dest, 10 m NNE of Djdjelli, Froggatt+Williams, ref: as above 1723 2 He 177 dam, 5 m SW of Djdjelli, Boulton+Hoile, ref: as above Does anyone have full name and serial for Froggatt, Williams and Hoile? Enjoy! Frank. |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Frank,
Thomas Froggatt (117841) RAFVR https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...5531/page/1755 Cheers, Tom |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Tom,
Thanks for that. Enjoy! Frank. |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Big extracts of the combat reports of twelve pilots of GC I/7 involved on this day are on the book "Pilotes français sur l’Afrique du Nord et la Corse", by Daniel and Alain Decot.
Sgt-chef Reveillon: take-off 1530 hrs, over convoy 1550 hrs, engaged enemy ac 1635 hrs. Lt Perrier: idem FW 200 dest, Baie de Bougie et environs, Perrier, ref: GC I/7 vlist So I will say this claim was made some minutes after 1635 hrs Sgt-chef Leroy: warned of enemy approach at 1630 hrs, no other time in report Do 217 prob, Baie de Bougie et environs, Lt Roger Perrier+S/Lt Charles Leroy, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist FW 200 dest, Baie de Bougie et environs, Leroy, ref: GC I/7 vlist With Perier, so also some minutes after 1635 hrs It seems that these three pilots were flying CAP over convoy. According to the combat report, Perrier and Leroy attacked 4 bombers, each claiming one and probably claimed another probable together that they did not see crash. Lt De Bellefont: scrambled 1620 hrs, over convoy 1635 hrs, saw enemy aircraft 1640 hrs, attacked He 177 1642 hrs, saw Beaufighter shot down He 117 1715 hrs Lt Tallent: scrambled 1620 hrs, over convoy 1635 hrs, saw enemy aircraft 1640 hrs, attacked He 177 1642 hrs He 177 dam, Bay of Bougie and area, S/Lt Maurice Tallent, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist So around 1642 hrs Cne Dorance: scrambled 1620 hrs, no other time in report Sgt-chef Faren: over convoy 1645 hrs FW 200 dam, area of Baie de Bougie, Cne Michael Dorance+Sgt Chef Fargeu, Spitfire Vb, ref: GC I/7 vlist; 7e Escadre I thin Fargeu = Faren, so some minutes after 1645 hrs Lt Madon: scrambled 1640 hrs, no other time in report Do 217 dam, area of Baie de Bougie, Cne Michel Madon, Spitfire Vb, ref: GC I/7 vlist; 7e Escadre FW 200 prob, Baie de Bougie et environs, Madon, ref: GC I/7 vlist Other pilots reached convoy 10-15 minutes after scramble, so engaged between 1650-1700 hrs probably Lt Simard: scrambled 1640 hrs, over convoy 1650 hrs FW 200 dam, area of Baie de Bougie, Cne Pierre Simard, Spitfire Vb, ref: Porret & Thevenet (no time given) Some minutes after 1650 hrs Sgt-chef Morizot: scrambled 1645 hrs, over convoy 1655 hrs, attacked Do 217s and He 111s just after No claim Lt Rebiere: scrambled 1645 hrs, landed 1750 hrs Do 217 dest, Bay of Bougie and surroundings, Rebière, ref: GC I/7 vlist; 7e Escadre Do 217 dam, Bay of Bougie and surroundings, Lt Raoul Rebière, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist Probaby reached convoy at 1655 hrs, so engaged in the next minutes. Claimed the Do 217 destroyed first. Lt Lansoy: scrambled 1640 hrs, landed due to undercarriage trouble, took off again at 1715 hrs, no other time No claim Do 217 dest, Baie de Bougie et environs, Lt Guy Bouttier, Spitfire IX, ref: GC I/7 vlist No combat report for him |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Thanks all
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Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Hello
Pilot - BOULTON Kenneth Frank DFC (169716 /1181734) RAFVR Navigator - HOILE Reginald Thomas Stoker “Castor“ (1254287) RAFVR You know the crew score? Both ex 68 Sqn Cheers, Pavel |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
I have a little on my website about the actions over this convoy: http://www.ghostbombers.com/kf4/South/annex.htmlhttp://www.ghostbombers.com/kf4/South/annex.html based on Allied reports.
I may "borrow" some of the additional information given in this thread for a future update! |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Pavel,
According to Those Other Eagles, Boughton and Hoile also claimed a Ju 88 during the night of 14/15 June 1943 while flying Beaufighter VIf EL187. They had joined 153 Sqn. on 17 March 1943. Cheers, Tom |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Hello,
Here are 2 claims from P-39 pilots of the 347th Fighter Squadron, 350th Fighter Group following the 26 Nov 43 engagement: 1st Lt. Clyde H. Wilson -- 1 He177 -- damaged 2nd Lt. Louis J. Klass -- 1 Ju88 -- probably destroyed Below a brief description from Hugh Dow's Data on Flight Operations of the 350th FG in WWII: 26 Nov 1943, MedSea, Taher "Sqdn (347) was off Ops, most pilots at Reghaia, enroute to Corsica, when 30 plus e/a hit a convoy off of Algeria shortly before dusk. Learning of the attack in progress, Wilson and Klass were able to get airborne and proceeded to the battle area where Wilson intercepted a glide bomber, scoring hits before it disappeared into clouds." (Prior to engagement) "Klass landed at Taher, bringing mail to the rear echelon from Reghaia. Told of the attack in progress, he accompanied Wilson to the combat area, probably destroying a Ju-88. Attacks were few, and the standard procedure was to hit a convoy within the last hour of daylight and only when e/a could escape from day fighters into clouds". Regards to everyone, Bob |
Re: ALLIED CLAIMS MEDITERRANEAN 26 NOV 43
Thanks-this ties it up nicely as 153 Sqn reported 'Cobras' attacking a He 177
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