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Alex Smart 12th February 2006 18:34

Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Hi,

Has there been any news on the fate of the Bf109 that was found in India last year ?

Alex

Tony Jones 12th February 2006 22:11

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
This was registered in the UK as G-CDTI on 12/12/05 to Rare Aerto Ltd, Jersey. It is a Bf 109E with c/n 4034 and serial 8.

Does anyone have the Stkz for this one please

DaveM2 13th February 2006 02:37

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Serial 8? Do you mean tactical number? That is 'Black 6'.

Dave

Tony Jones 13th February 2006 11:04

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Dave

Not the tactical number, the Stkz.

More info from LAAS Avaiation News and Review

The a/c is believed to have made a belly landing near Canterbury, Kent following engine trouble on 2/11/40. Having survived the forced landing in a virtually intact condition it is assumed that the a/c was gifted by one of the RAF's presentation squadrons to thw Nizam of Hyberbad. The Nizam had paid for No. 152 and 253 Squadrons which flew and fought in the BoB. In recent years the 109 was displayed in the Poojya Doddappa Appa College of Engineering in Gulbarga, India in a dlilapidated state and was said to be on its way to a scrap dealer. The a/c was instead shipped to the UK and will undergo restoration to flying condition.

Tony

Alex Smart 13th February 2006 20:23

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Hi,

Yes so it seems, 2nd November 1940.
Fw. X. Ray taken POW after combat with 74 and 92 Sqdns around 9 a.m.
Came down at Lower Hardres, Kent.

Alex

George Hopp 14th February 2006 00:34

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Just a bit more. According to "Battle of Britain. The forgotten months" by John Foreman, Fw Xaver Ray was a member of 8/JG 53, and his a/c was a 109E1. In one place in the book Foreman notes the landing location as Lower Herdres, Kent; and in another, he spells it Lower Hardres, Kent. Perhaps a local can provide the correct spelling.

Tony Jones 14th February 2006 01:46

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
George

Lower Hardres is in Kent, there is no Lower Herdres anywhere in England

Tony

George Hopp 14th February 2006 03:01

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Thank you, Tony.
George

Alex Smart 14th February 2006 03:54

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Hi,

Thanks .

In Froemans defence I expect the spelling error refered to, to be printers error.

Alex

DaveM2 14th February 2006 03:57

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Tony , what is the reference to serial '8' in your post?
There is a good deal of photo and research material on the '109 Lair' site.

regards
Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Jones
Dave

Not the tactical number, the Stkz.

Tony


Alex Smart 15th March 2020 05:55

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Some time ago If I remember correctly it was reported that the aircraft had mysteriously disappeared from India. It now is in England, and an engine has been found to be fitted to the a/c in time to come. When pictures of the find in India were published the a/c was intact , so what became of the original engine ? Also recent pictures show the a/c without wings, what became of them ?

Revi16 15th March 2020 08:54

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
http://www.warbirdinformationexchang...hp?f=3&t=71387


https://www.facebook.com/12683446747...type=3&theater

Chris Goss 15th March 2020 09:31

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
The Iron Cross article goes into some detail & there will be a follow up by me in the next edition (as I contacted the German pilot some years ago). Apparently Flypast did a similar article but by a different author last month

Alex Smart 15th March 2020 17:09

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Thanks guys for your replies. I think it is sad that this particular a/c is being "updated" as I feel that it should have been kept as it was when found in India, is in original condition that had aged.

John Manrho 15th March 2020 22:46

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
I concur....they should have left it as is.....

joyban 28th April 2020 07:53

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Hi Chris, Which issue of Flypast did have an article on the Indian ME109?
Many thanks

Chris Goss 28th April 2020 08:50

Re: Indian Bf109 , Any news ?
 
Not got the issue but in the last month or so


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