Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Hello,

In our efforts to photographically document as many of the British losses during the Blitzkrieg in the west during the late spring of 1940, our EoE WG is now searching for photos usable for profile documentation of Hurricanes of 17 SQ. We have four photos of YBoI, but without a known SN, for which we are also searching, so that we can associate these photos with a specific Hurricane loss.

Does anyone know the SN of YBoI, or have photos of any other Hurricanes down during May-June, 1940 displaying 17 SQ codes?

Your assistance will be appreciated.

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

A YB code and serial #.

http://www.bbm.org.uk/StevensLW.htm
http://www.bbm.org.uk/StevensLW-portrait1-opt.jpg

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Revi16,

Thanx for sending this. I'd always planned to use YBoJ as a probable EoE BoB Profile for 17 SQ, but had just never gotton around to collecting this well-known photo. So I''m glad to have it and I appreciate your taking the time to send this to me.

Does anyone have a close up photo of the flying "Popeye" emblem on this a/c?

Actually, I'm still looking for photos that might confirm the SN of YBoI that crash-landed during the WC/FC, and any other photos of forced-landings or crashes of 17 SQ Hurricanes in France or Belgium during the May-June, 1940 campaign. There just must be more than the four images of have of YBoI out there.

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Hi Larry
I do have a photograph somewhere of a 17 squadron hurricane taken just before the Battle of France.
It clearly shows that the hand in armour of 17 squadrons crest was painted onto the front of their aircraft below the front of the canopy.
There is also a well known picture of Bird Wilson standing near the rudder of a hurricane. The same armoured hand is painted on the rudder.
Gerry

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Gerry,

Thanx. Is it possible to get copies of these from you?

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Hi Larry,
No problem.
I will try and locate the picture today and scan it for you.
Gerry

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Gerry,

Thanx. Copies of both photos would be appreciated.

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Here you go.

Not great but the picture showing the line of of 17 squadron hurricanes originates from Arthur Lines who was with them from January 1938.
You can just make out the 'hand in armour' motif that I mentioned.

This can be seen clearer on the close up of Bird-Wilson.

Cheers
Gerry

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Gerry,

Thanx. These photos may lead to some profiles. Is the rest of Bird-Wilson's a/c known in photos? That should be a profile if we can document it.

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Hi Larry
Sadly there are no better pictures of 17 squadron hurricanes in my collection.
I did know Peter Dawbarn reasonably well and I could kick myself for not asking him if he had any pictures.
That said, I have seen photos on the web of his hurricane before and after his force landing during the BoB.
Kind regards
Gerry

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Hello,

Have just been sent a copy of Bird-Wilson's logbook, but still lack the photography necessary to profile his a/c during either the WC/FC or the BoB. Need further photography for that. Also, does anyone have the photos Gerry refers to for Peter Dawbarn's Hurricane? I'll need to do at least seven 17 SQ Hurricane profiles covering from 09.39 through 12.40.

Still don't have firm ID on photos of YVoI FL during the French Campaign. Anybody got any ideas?

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

A bit of help, perhaps.


http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety...187/index.html



Ed

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

And a partial shot of YB-W in presumably the correct colors (just scroll down a bit, on the left).

http://www.woodhallspa.org/heritage_aviation.html



Ed

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Ed,

Thanx for both of these. The restored Hurricane looks like it has something under the cockpit on the starboard side, some kind of scoreboard or something? Anybody know what that is?

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Here you go Larry.

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Hello,

Does anyone know the date and place for this photo? What was Bird-Wilson's rank at the time? Is this his a/c P3878 in which he was shot down by Adolf Galland on 24 September 1940?

Thanx.

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Hi Larry

I can't help you with that I'm afraid.
I have seen a picture of this aircraft (YB-W) with Jack Ross stood at the front and it doesn't have the artwork.
There is also this photograph which I believe also shows YB-W without the artwork.
One for the experts i'm afraid. My limited knowledge really only covers the aircrew.

Regards
Gerry

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Gerry,

Thanx. This Hurricane is almost certain to be the subject of an EoE Profile when we get to the BoB period. I'm sure someone who is an expert on British pilots during the BoB will chime in here so that I can get these photos correctly entered into the photo DB for future use. I would like to know the names of the other people in the photo and the provenance of the photo.

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Larry
This picture can be found here along with a who's who.
Cant assist re provenance.
gerry
http://www.bbm.org.uk/Wissler.htm

Re: Looking for photos of FL or crashed 17 SQ Hurricanes (YB code) during the WC/FC of 1940
 

Gerry,

Thanx.