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Brian 6th March 2006 10:27

Japanese Fu-Go Balloons
 
From what I have read, a few of these Fu-Go (paper) balloons were actually shot down by fighters (P-38s and P-61s) over the West Coast of USA and Canada. Has anyone dates, names and other details?

Cheers
Brian

shooshoobaby 6th March 2006 18:42

Re: Japanese Fu-Go Balloons
 
Brian - I have that information. will send asap.
Mike

Brian 6th March 2006 20:09

Re: Japanese Fu-Go Balloons
 
Hi Mike

I am amazed - I didn't really think anyone would have such info! Look forward to seeing what you have.

Cheers
Brian

Erich 6th March 2006 21:44

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Brian:

want a first hand account book ?

type in Brookings, Oregon on your search engine. then one you get on the little towns web-page find the information center which should have an e-mail addy. Now what you want to ask is about the book that covers the incident in 45 where a Pastor, his wife and children were killed after the children touched the lethal device in the Oregon coastal hills. The book covers this terrible tragedy plus the bombs in general with maps and schematics if I remember correctly.

There is a rather large white stone monument on the place of the explosion. As I live in Oregon, USA the place of this is some 65 miles to my southwest.

strange eh ?

E `

Brian 8th March 2006 11:17

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Thanks Erich - I tried, but couldn't actually locate the book which you mentioned. Never mind, Mike is going to send me some information and some details have been extracted from the internet.

Cheers
Brian

shooshoobaby 8th March 2006 17:44

Re: Japanese Fu-Go Balloons
 
Brian - did you get my email sent on 6th?
Mike

Brian 8th March 2006 18:12

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Hi Mike

No receive!

Cheers
Brian

Dan O'Connell 8th March 2006 19:40

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Erich, actually that occured just out of Bly, Oregon, about 55 miles east of me (Klamath Falls). I've been to the site many times.

Erich 8th March 2006 19:48

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Dan sorry I am pretty f**** due to cancer treatments, you are very right, I had to go look in the data base. seems some 9000 ? paper balloons were sent over to put on some fires especially on the west coast. reports of 58 balloons seen on one day

edwest 8th March 2006 19:53

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See this book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/093...lance&n=283155

You should especially read the last review on that page.




Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Erich 8th March 2006 20:03

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just so you guys are aware, Dan and myself are seperated by about 70 miles of territroy with Medford in between the two of us, which was attacked.

E ~

Dan O'Connell 8th March 2006 20:09

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Interesting review! By the way, the local Klamath County Museum has one of the support rings that the incendiaries were suspended from on the balloons. I don't recall were it was recovered from. And fortunately, I've never found any parts in my local archaeology work :-) Erich, I think you were thinking of the bombs dropped by a submarine based "sea plane" that were dropped near Brookings. (for potential forest fires) The pilot actually visited the site some time about ten years ago. Erich, my very best for prompt and full recovery!

Erich 8th March 2006 20:13

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thanks for the wishes Dan, not doing well right now, you could be right about the sea plane as I was later figuring after your first comment that it had to be related in some way as the Japanese were determined if possible to explode our NW forests to pull back man-power for the war effort to the hills ....

Dan O'Connell 8th March 2006 20:30

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Erich, hang in there buddy! For those interested in the Bly occurance, the location is reached by going east about one mile from Bly, turn north on Cambell Resevoir road, and then east again towards Gearhart wilderness. It's about ten miles from there. Oddly, it did not start a fire (only killing all those people) although it's heavily forested. It is right beside a very nice spring/creek and a nice memorial marker is at the location.

Dan O'Connell 8th March 2006 20:40

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http://www.oldsmokeys.org/Links/BLY%...ON%20BOMBS.htm

A personal memory of the event.

shooshoobaby 9th March 2006 01:03

Re: Japanese Fu-Go Balloons
 
The original book on the subject of Japanese Balloons was
" Retaliation " by Bert Webber Medford , Oregon.
Available on abebooks.com Excellent book.
I have heard of another good book on the subject by Historian
Robert Mikesh.

FYI - the Balloon's Timing Devices were made by Seiko , Explosives by
Hitachi , electronics/ gyros by Toshiba
Fugo means - Windship Weapon
Cheers

Brian 12th March 2006 18:33

Re: Japanese Fu-Go Balloons
 
Hi guys

I have now found out that the 54thFS flying P-38s from the Aleutians accounted for nine Fugo balloons on 11 April 1945. No other details as yet apart from two (at least) by RCAF Kittyhawks on 21/2/45 and 10/3/45.

Progress!

Brian

Rwrwalker 14th March 2006 14:29

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Hi guys;

Interesting thread. The RCAF brought down at least 3 of these balloons. In addition to the two brought down by Kittyhawks, one was "forced down" by a Canso (Catalina to you Yanks) of 6 (BR) Squadron, near the north end of Vancouver Island on 12 March 1945. Those are the words from the official RCAF history, whereas they describe the Kittyhawk claims as "shot down". Maybe just literary licence, but I picture the Canso pilot calling for "ramming speed". There is also a press report of an interception over western Alberta, but this is not confirmed in any surviving RCAF records. Apparently the balloons didn't show on radar of the day, so interception was mostly based on luck.

Several more landed across western Canada, as far east as Saskatchewan, without major effect. The Oregon incident was the only casuality caused by any of the several hundred balloons launched. None of them ever achieved their goal of starting forest fires, because they arrived over the west coast at the height of the rainy season. Late in the war the RCAF moved east coast Hurricanes to the western prairies, and diverted Canadian built Mosquitos to BC to intercept balloons, but none of these aircraft ever sighted a balloon. In one sense, the diversion of these aircraft from other uses was a small victory for the Japanese.

Several of the balloons landed intact, and did not ignite. Those that were found were rushed to Rockcliffe for examination at the RCAF engineering offices, but I can't find any record of any pieces on display today in Canada. Officially, the Canadian government clamped down on all reporting of balloons, to prevent any useful information from reaching Japan. For this reason, there is very little information on this campaign outside of a few RCAF records.

edwest 14th March 2006 20:23

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Here's an article that may be of help:


http://okielegacy.org/WWIIpowcamps/balloonbombs.html



Ed

edwest 14th March 2006 22:00

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And one more:


http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...eb/conley.html


Ed

Brian 14th March 2006 23:10

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Thanks Bill and Ed - I am so much more informed regarding the Japanese Fugo Balloons, thanks to your contributions, and those of Mike and Erich and others. It's not an aspect of the war that is well known this side of the Pond. Unfortunately, I am able only to provide brief mention of these balloon attacks in my forthcoming book, whereas I would have liked to devoted more coverage.

Thanks to you all

Brian


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