Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

I know this is a long shot and I have little information but here we go ,
on 22 November 1941 the body of a German airman was washed ashore on the south east coast of Ireland . His rank appeared to be that of a Lt. and on his tunic was the cufftitle " Kriegsberichter Der Luftwaffe " . From Irish records his unit is down as " L.W. Baukomp" and his number is 1/307/111 and the number 69 under the underlined . Sadly his body was in a bad condition and he was in the water for some months , does anybody have any losses for Kriegsberichters during this period ?
Thanks.

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

He was Sdfhr. Karl Ehrmann from He 111 H-5 of 9./KG 40, which was missing on 20 Oct 1941 at the west coast of England.

Matti

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Do you have any further details on this He 111 Matti?

Cheers
Stig

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

1941-10-20, 9./KG 40, He 111 H-5, 3528, F8+GT, (Englische Westküste), Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Schrage, Karl, vermißt
Bombenschütze Gefr Klassen, Wolfgang, vermißt
Bordfunker Gefr Hock, Otto, vermißt
Bordmechaniker Uffz Meier, Hans, vermißt
Bordschütze (Kr.Ber.) Sdfhr Ehrmann, Karl, +
Sdfhr Ehrmann 1941-11-22 tot angeschwemmt.

Matti

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Hats off Mr Gold Mine :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Better keep the hat on to avoid sunstroke!

Matti

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

He, he, you're right

Damn hot in Göteborg right now...

Cheers
Stig

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Matti,
Bordmechaniker Uffz Meier, Hans,
Bordschütze (Kr.Ber.) Sdfhr Ehrmann, Karl, both are buried in Ireland

Would you have a possible time for the loss of this Heinkel ,please
Tony K

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Thanks for the additional info.

Unfortunately I have no time for the loss.

Matti

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Matti, it is a pleasure to be able for once to be of some assistance.
There were three Heinkels operating near the Scillies in the evening and I was hoping that the time of the Heinkel (identified) could be confirmed if it was morning or evening.
Tony K

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Many thanks gentlemen especially Matti for all your help . I was just going over some notes I took many years ago on one of my visits to the Irish Army Military Archives . Now I can put a name to the file I viewed there and am glad to see that this body was named .
By any chance does anybody know how the He 111 was lost , thanks.

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

For what it is worth, NA HW13/97 has the following entry:

Night 20-21.10.41
Luftflotte 3

III./KG 40: 8 aircraft up before 1730 and operating up to 2115. LANDS END to CARMSOLE POINT. 1 a/c made brief landfall at RULLION, 1 a/c may have been destroyed by 2 Hurricanes west of SCILLY ISLES at 1640.

Hope this helps

Adam

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Sgt AH Thom of 87 Sqn claimed a probable west of the Scillies at 1740 hrs on 20 Oct. I have a report & the NVM

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Thanks Adam and Chris

Certainly puts the loss into perspective!!

B Rgds
Stig

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Many thanks Adam and Chris for the extra information , this now gives a much clearer account of what happened in this action .

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Adam I think that Carmsole Point mentioned in your post should read Carnsore Point in Co Wexford.

Chris, the bodies of Meier and Ehrmann landing on the Irish Coast is some distance from the Scillies area bearing in mind sea drift, which was why I was trying to determine time frames.

In what way schnellmeyer What about the vessels Hill and Kyle Queen?
Regards to all,
Tony K

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Thanks Tony for the clarification - my copy is a bit hard to read in places.

As an aside, there is an entry for the 19th that notes three unidentified aircraft of Fl.Fü Atlantik - Gruppe 406 took off at 1500 on ASR duties. Milford Haven - St George's Channel area. Bombed and sank Norwegian SS Rask 6m south of Tuskar Rock. Time of attack is listed as 1830 and return was between 2000-2100.

He 115 8L+BH (3246) was damaged by flak and Uffz Johanne Schelschorn (Bf) was KIA in Pl.Qu. 7387 and could be a candidate as a victim of the Rask's defensive armament IF I've interpreted the location correctly - and that's a big if....

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

Thanks for that Adam, the coastwatchers in the Look Out Post (LOP) Carnsore Point observed two Heinkels attacking the Rask from 18.30 hrs (Irish Time). I wonder were the HeII5's misidentified as He111's and were involved in the attack on the Rask?

Re: Kriegsberichter Loss in 1941
 

According to the Admiralty War Diary the RASK was bombed and sunk by three He115 12 nm southeast of Tuskar Rock at 1930A/19 Oct 1941. The ship was armed with five machine guns and claimed to have hit two of the attackers.