9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

Although a well known subject over many years,always in every publication with the red Höllehund untill recently on this blogspot
http://theprofilepaintshop.blogspot.se/
It "is" black and outlined in red,looking at the photo I included he is probably right.

An old article in SAM of Sept.1979 on this,describes in brief an eyewitness account of a W.S.Walton of Ham Surrey who performed some measuring and colour matching at the time,I wonder how he saw it,anyone has a copy of his notes?

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

I have the following:

The RAF A.I.1.(g) Report on Crashed Enemy Aircraft, Serial No. 22 of 7 November 1940, Item No.1, Individual Report No. 4/115 gave the account of the circumstances of the 9./JG 26 Staffelkapitän, Oblt. Heinz Ebeling’s Bf 109 E-4, W.Nr. 2740*, "Yellow 1" crash following the collision with the Staffel’s Bf 109 E-1, W.Nr. 3259, "Yellow 11" at Wittersham, Kent on 5 November 1940, along with remarks on the emblem: "…Crest; a black winged demon encircled in red …"

Not the same aircraft, but the emblem style would be.

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

This proves that there was at least a black version of it during the Battle.

Thanks for replying.

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

You are welcome.

I believe that the black version was in fact introduced shortly before the Battle of France, April/May 1940.

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There is definitly a black(very dark red?) and a red one,just wonder which one is on Fronhöfer's 109.

Thanks

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

René,

The photo you posted to start this thread off shows a black insignia with a thin red outline.

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

Larry,thanks for your answer!

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

I thought that your query was answered already in post No.2 ...

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

Bit of a bump but...

Can anyone confirm or bust my theory that this aircraft has a 70/71 upper surrface?

looking at the right wing it does appear to have the splinter pattern, add that to the werk number being masked with a green background.

I'm researching this aircraft for a future modelling attempt and am keen to find a unique scheme.

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 

Not 70/71/65 in August 1940. Yes, the aircraft would have been originally painted in that scheme when it was built, but as of very early 1940 it would have been repainted to the standard 71/02/65 1940 scheme. The upper surfaces are just too light in the crash site photos when compared against the other parts of the aircraft that we know were RLM 70 as standard. There is really no telling how long or what kinds of abuse those wings have been put through prior to the aircraft being displayed. The contrasting RLM 02 segments on the wings may not have faired too well under the circumstances and could have worn considerably allowing the underlying solid 71 to show through. Possibly even to some of the original 70/71 scheme in areas...

I'd consider looking to JG53 if you want a unique scheme...