We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

Hi everyone,

We are currently developing a new Sim call ATWAR(Atlantic Warfare) and we are trying to gather information regarding the following planes from KG 40 located at Bordeaux-Merignac airfield in France :

I have already gone trough many books but the information is still elusive.

Heinkel 111h : Paint scheme, type of armament used and operational history.

Messerschmidt 410 : Paint scheme, type of armament used and operational history.

For anyone who can shed some serious info on these you will get a free copy of the game + forum VIP access on the ATWAR website.

Regards Hans

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Early He111H: 1x MG15 in nose, 1x in dorsal position, 1x in rear of Ventral gondola. Some were field-modded to have an extra MG15 in the upper nose. Other field mods included MG15 in beam positions. Port was ALWAYS in the rear window due to the positioning of the radio equipment. Starboard side could be in either window.

A very, very few had a fixed MG15 (I think?) in the tail cone, firing rearward with no aiming.

Later on, the beam positions were upgraded to MG81Z. Nose gun was changed to an MGFF. I believe some had MG131? The front of the ventral gondola was given an MGFF for ground strafing.

The dorsal position was later armoured and given a cover, with framing that reminds me of an armadillo. I believe there were multiple versions... on some, the cover was hinged and folded up, over the gunners head. Later H models had a power-turret with an MG131 in the dorsal position.

Because "so many" of the mods were done in the field, The defensive layout seems to be unit-specific.... ie if one gets beam guns, ALL get beam guns. (only fair, right? :))

Camo layout: http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/111/lu...l-70.71.65.jpg Some planes had the same scheme, but reversed left-right (as if seen in a mirror.) Wellenmuster was unique to each plane if applied.

I am more than happy to be corrected on any point.

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Specifically them He 111s used by KG 40, not specific to Bordeux-Merignac, were of many marks, both very early (B and/or E as known from very rare photos) and later versions (H-5 to H-6). You need be very specific when creating each (including codes) involved. Here are (some) known Heinkels:

He 111 H-5 2302 xx/KG 40 dam 35%Er Breman ... 04.12.40
He 111 H-2 2739 III/KG 40 dam 40Er Mondidier . 13.05.41
He 111 P-4 3077 IV/KG 40 dam 10% Avord ...... 19.09.42
He 111 H-2 3147 IV/KG 40 dam 15% Lechfeld ... 18.09.41
11./KG 40 crd 90% NW Kulnbach 26.12.43
He 111 3175 V4+GL III/KG 40 mis 100% unk-loc ... 08.04.41
He 111 H-3 3193 III/KG 40 dam 15% Ansbach .... 22.05.41
III/KG 40 dam 50%Er Anklam ... 18.07.41
He 111 H-4 3263 JZ+FL Aus.St.KG 40 dm 30% Unterstedt 05.09.40
He 111 H-4 3272 Erg.St.KG 40 dam 50%Er Amiens 07.11.40
He 111 H-4 3282 IV/KG 40 dam 25% St.Dizier .. 22.04.42
He 111 H-3 3297 III/KG 40 dam 20% Ansbach .... 29.07.40
He 111 H-5 3315 1T+HH Stb/KG 40 mis ................ 07.09.40
He 111 H-3 3328 V4+CH III/KG 40 mis 100% off England 09.04.41
(downed when attacking shipping )
He 111 H-3 3329 III/KG 40 dam 15% Ansbach .... 22.05.41
He 111 H-3 3333 V4+BH III/KG 40 mis St.Georgs-Cannel 08.05.41
He 111 H-3 3351 III/KG 40 dam 45%Er ldg Brest 16.04.41

He 111 H-5 3528 F8+GT III/KG 40 mis 100% EnglW.Coast 20.10.41
He 111 H-5 3567 III/KG 40 CRD 100% nr Ansbach 04.07.41
He 111 H-5 3570 IV/KG 40 dam 15% Bricy ...... 27.07.42
IV/KG 40 dam 15% Bricy ...... 19.12.43
He 111 H-5 3613 F8+KU IV/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 07.04.42
He 111 H-5 3665 F8+BT III/KG 40 mis <Kanal> ........ 14.08.41
He 111 H-5 3840 IV/KG 40 dam ................ 27.07.41
He 111 H-5 3846 IV/KG 40 dam 20% ............ 29.07.42
He 111 H-5 3894 I/KG 40 Attack 10% Bordeaux 13.04.41
F8+ES III/KG 40 mis 100% SDN England 24.11.41
He 111 H-5 3895 IV/KG 40 flg 85% Bricy ...... 16.01.42
He 111 H-5 3896 * 8./KG 40 crd 100% nr Bardia . 05.09.41
He 111 H-5 3898 F8+BS III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 11.02.42
He 111 H-5 3900 I/KG 40 Attack 10% Bordeaux 13.04.41
F8+GM 4./KG 40 CRD 100% Krossanes . 22.05.41
He 111 H-5 3901 I/KG 40 Attack 10% Bordeaux 13.04.41
4./KG 40 DAM 30%Er Gardermoen 20.05.41
He 111 H-5 3902 I/KG 40 Attack 10% Bordeaux 13.04.41
4./KG 40 DAM 50%Er Gardermoen 15.05.41
He 111 H-5 3903 I/KG 40 Attack 10% Bordeaux 13.04.41
II/KG 40 Motor 100% Merignac 21.06.41
He 111 H-5 3904 F8+ET III/KG 40 mis 100% (Liverpool) 22.10.41
He 111 H-5 3905 III/KG 40 eng fire 90% Amulies 27.11.41
He 111 H-5 3906 4./KG 40 Attack 10% Bordeaux 13.04.41
III/KG 40 crd 100% nrRotterdam 01.10.41
He 111 H-5 3909 V4+IH III/KG 40 mis St.Georg-Channel 11.05.41
He 111 H-5 3962 F8+LW IV/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 29.07.42
He 111 H-5 3972 [photo tail marking w sinkings (KG 26?)]
{eBay 10.2013}
He 111 H-5 3973 III/KG 40 crd 30% sea Ansbach 04.07.41

He 111 H-5 4008 III/KG 40 crd 20% Rennes ..... 18.12.41
III/KG 40 crd 25% Merginac ... 13.02.42
He 111 H-5 4020 V4+AK [Profile & photo in Kampfflieger (2) ]
[Profile in Osprey He 111 book]
III/KG 40 crd 80% nr Ansbach . 19.07.41
He 111 H-5 4021 V4+JL III/KG 40 mis <Bristol> ...... 02.05.41
He 111 H-5 4023 V4+EL III/KG 40 downed ............. 14.04.41
He 111 H-5 4037 F8+DR * 8./KG 40 mis 100% ........... 06.09.41
He 111 H-5 4038 F8+DS III/KG 40 mis E of England ... 16.08.41
He 111 H-5 4063 V4+DK III/KG 40 mis BristolChannel . 05.05.41
He 111 H-5 4067 F8+NM 4./KG 40 SDN near Faroes .... 05.06.41
He 111 H-5 4068 III/KG 40 dam 5% Fighters .... 12.10.41
III/KG 40 crashed 100% Rennes 15.11.41
He 111 H-5 4069 4./KG 40 crash (100%) Vannes 06.07.41
He 111 H-5 4070 F8+ES III/KG 40 missing (Nordsee) .. 19.08.41
´im Schlauschboot zurückgekehrt´ 3.9.41
He 111 H-5 4076 III/KG 40 crd 15%Er Rennes ... 13.10.41
He 111 H-5 4078 F8+KT III/KG 40 mis 100% EnglE.Coast 16.12.41
He 111 H-5 4081 F8+BS III/KG 40 missing Eof England 22.08.41
He 111 H-5 4082 F8+FT III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 09.08.41
He 111 H-5 4083 F8+FR III/KG 40 crd 60% Sösterberg . 15.08.41
He 111 H-5 4084 F8+HR III/KG 40 mis 100% (Southamton 20.09.41
He 111 H-5 4089 III/KG 40 crash LaBaehoniére . 27.01.42
He 111 H-5 4091 III/KG 40 downed 100% ........ 20.09.41
‘Seenotdiest, zuruck, BS killed’
He 111 H-5 4092 III/KG 40 crd 40%Er Rennes ... 12.10.41

He 111 H-6 4125 F8+HT III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 28.12.41
He 111 H-6 4129 III/KG 40 crd 100% Bleichdorf 23.07.41
He 111 H-6 4141 F8+AT III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 12.10.41
He 111 H-6 4173 F8+DT III/KG 40 mis 100% Engl.ECoast 16.12.41
He 111 H-6 4175 F8+ER III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 11.10.41
He 111 H-6 4186 F8+ET III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 29.12.41
He 111 H-6 4257 III/KG 40 crd 100% nr LeHavre. 28.09.41
He 111 H-6 4258 III/KG 40 dam 5% PLQ 14W6746 . 28.03.42
He 111 H-6 4260 F8+AS III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 12.10.41
He 111 H-6 4286 III/KG 40 dam 20% Rennes ..... 15.02.42
IV/KG 40 dam 40%Er Chauvigny 27.09.43
He 111 H-6 4311 F8+GT III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 02.04.42
He 111 H-6 4313 III/KG 40 dam 35% Sosterberg 03.10.41
He 111 H-6 4375 III/KG 40 dam 30%Er Beauvais . 13.09.41
F8+ET III/KG 40 mis 100% Eiri Coast 21.03.41
He 111 H-6 4380 F8+ES III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 13.02.42
(3 crew returned by U-Boot)
He 111 H-6 4391 III/KG 40 crd 45% Er Rennes .. 19.10.41
He 111 H-6 4392 III/KG 40 dam 40% figt. Nantes 02.12.41
He 111 H-6 4394 F8+DS III/KG 40 mis 100% EnglW.Coast 20.10.41
He 111 H-6 4396 F8+BT III/KG 40 mis 100% EnglW.Coast 10.10.41
He 111 H-6 4406 III/KG 40 crd 100% Amiens .... 14.09.41
He 111 H-6 4428 F8+GS III/KG 40 mis 100% ........... 02.12.41
He 111 H-6 4429 III/KG 40 dam 15%BeauvaisTille 22.09.41
He 111 H-6 4430 F8+KR III/KG 40 mis 100% (Liverpool) 01.11.41
He 111 H-6 4510 II/KG 40 fld 30%Er Wesendorf 29.11.43
He 111 H-6 4994 1./KG 40 crd 100% Fassberg .. 17.04.43

He 111 H-6 .... F8+GS III/KG 40, with ex-I/KG 4 emblem

He 111 H-2 5557 I/KG 40 CRD 100% Landsberg . 17.11.40
He 111 H-2 5565 IV/KG 40 dam 10% Neuburg .... 08.02.42
He 111 H-2 5570 IV/KG 40 crd 100% Lechfeld .. 10.11.40
He 111 H-3 5649 III/KG 40 dam 15%ER Ansbach .. 15.07.41
He 111 H-3 5670 III/KG 40 DAM 10-59% fighter . 16.04.41
III/KG 40 CRD 90% nr Dinard .. 23.04.41
He 111 H-3 5677 III/KG 40 AA 15% LDG Brest ... 10.04.41
He 111 H-3 5687 III/KG 40 dam 25% Ansbach .... 25.05.41
He 111 H-3 6821 III/KG 40 ENG 100% nr Bauvais 04.05.41
He 111 H-3 6840 V4+HH III/KG 40 missing ............ 09.04.41
(downed in attack on Shipping)
He 111 H-3 6857 V4+FH III/KG missing ............ 12.04.41
He 111 H-3 6866 9./KG 40 crd 100% Dievenow .. 29.06.41
He 111 H-3 6914 IV/KG 40 dam 30%Er Bricy .... 28.03.41
He 111 H-3 6891 V4+GK III/KG 40 mis Bristol-Cchannel 05.05.41
He 111 6965 9./KG 40 crd 40% Dievenow ... 21.06.41

If you like, you can send me private mail, I have already drawn (in very high quality) an "Atlantic" He 111 H-5 3900 F8+GM, operating from Norway.

-Ed

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Hi Kenny,

Thank for the quick reply and we already have that info from a book here in team.

What is more problematic for us is to know if the He 111 was loaded with torpedoes or guided missiles to attack shipping in the Bay of Biscay and probably protecting u-boat coming back, i also read they used them against balloon but i am not sure they were from KG 40.

We already know that they didn't stay stationed at Bordeaux and that they had been transfer in Norway as torpedoes bomber so in my opinion they either used them to train torpedoes pilots in the Bay of Biscay or they occasionally attack some shipping.

And our opinion so far for the Me 410 would have be that they used them to protect the airfield against allied bombers run.

If we cannot find any hard evidences we will have to included them as non historically correct in the Sim, that would be better than nothing.

Regards Hans

Re: We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

Hi Ed,

Thank for the extensive list and i will contact you later regarding your paint scheme.

Regards Hans

Re: We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

Here are some photos of the early types of the He 111 serving with KG 40.
Source: Expired eBay auctions via the old LEMB

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Hi Sidney,

Thank for the pictures but when i look at the Luftwaffe order of battle they mention that heinkel 111 H and this is the very early heinkel 111 A so i don't know what to think about it?

Regards Hans

Re: We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

Many Luftwaffe units kept one or two older aircraft for use as transports and for courier duties.

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Hi Hans,

Although Nick Beale already answered your query, please also refer to Ed North's post No.3, more specifically to the following: "... He 111s used by KG 40 ... were of many marks, both very early (B and/or E as known from very rare photos) and later versions (H-5 to H-6)..."

In my post I just wanted to illustrate his point since I have a copy of some of these photos of the older He 111 serving with KG 40.

Regards,
Sinisa

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These are clearly not As, having the late engine installation. Es are possible. An assumption would be Js, as these were supposedly built for torpedo-bomber use, but there does not seem to be any strong mounting for the torpedoes visible under the fuselage.

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While at it, I seek good He 111 H-5 images, especially 4./KG 40 whilst in South-Norway or West of France, first half and summer 1941 (not them on night attacks over Britain) but them on shipping recce or strike. These often flew in wide arch west of Ireland and Northen-Ireland and landed Norway, them flying back. Known codes include F8+AM, F8+CM, F8+EM, F8+GM, F8+LM, F8+MM, F8+NM, F8+OM, F8+PM, F8+QM (10) altho 15 were on strength at one time point.

I put up a question mark on referring to unit KG 40 as operating Torpedo Bombers.

Re: We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

Hi Nick,

Thank for clarifying the matter.

Regards Hans

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Hi Sidney,

Yes i saw that KG 40 mainly used He 111 h-5 and some of them were transfer to Norway and they were torpedoes bomber so it might be plausible that they were use against shipping or to train pilots in the Bay of Biscay and also they used or test guided missiles.

But the info is pretty hard to come by.

Regards Hans

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Hi Graham,

The pvc rack for torpedo mounting were very quick and easy to install on any he 111, that was the main versatility of the 111.

Regards Hans

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Hi Ed,

Thank that some new info i didn't came across yet, will try to google them intensively to see if i came across something.

Regards Hans

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KG 40 did not operate the Me 410 nor did it carry out torpedo missions over the Bay

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given earlier on this board by Jim P.

"Re: KG40 HE111 Loss 21.3.42
He 111H-6, 4375, Popp, Fw. Ludwig, , III., 9., KG 40, gelbeE, F8+ET, VF+WL*, , 21-Mar-42, Interned with crew due to Luftkampf with Beaufighter from 254 Sq. (Schand)., , Lfl.3/Atlantik, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; The Blitz, Then & Now, III, p.99, , See südwestlich Bull Rock Lighthouse, County Cork, Eire, 100%, F, Bo Uffz. Heinrich Kapp, Bf Uffz. Adolf Ölkers & Bs Gefr. Rudolf Ippich, ,"

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Hi Chris,

I took the information from this very credible source :

In late 43 began conversion to Me 410 destroyers. In 6.43 redesignated V./KG2

http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg40.htm

For the 111 h i also found nothing regarding torpedoes operations so far

Regards Hans

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Hi Gogh,

Thank for the info

Regards Hans

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Two points here: (1) Chris is an even more credible source; (2) converting to the Me 410 and then being renamed as V./KG 2 does not mean that KG 40 ever used the type on operations over the Atlantic.

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I belive these early He 111 E/J´s likely be of Stab./KG 40 - that also had KGr 126 attached in latter part of 1940 (making up for shortages of Fw 200´s) - for Mining operations (not Torpedo Bombers). Torpedo Bomber operations were (in that period) were done by He 115´s of the Kústenfliegergruppe, later, mostly, by KG 26 (first in KG 28 if I recall correctly, coded 1T+xx). http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kgr126.htm

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And by KGr. 126 in August 1940: http://www.ghostbombers.com/1940/LT/torpedo1.html

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Herr Wittman:

No Me 410 operations of any sort over or even near the Bay of Biscay. If you are still in doubt, I recommend you obtain the excellent KG 2 unit history:

Balke, Ulf. Der Luftkrieg in Europa: die operativen Einsätze des Kampfgeschwaders 2 im Zweiten Weltkrieg. Teile 1 u. 2. Koblenz: Bernard & Graefe Verlag, 1989 and 1990.

L.

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Ok, there it was. Operational-trials. One aircraft confirmed (1T+BH, but exact He 111 version not stated) and total of six (600 kg) torpedoes expanded. No hits registered, so probably all were unsucessful. Other LT-Kette not confirmed. Note this was KGr 126 aircraft, not KG 40 per se. -Ed

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Hi Larry,

Thank for contributing to the discussion but the more i read the more i found documents about Me 410 like this one here :

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...me=false&dov=1



Here an extract from it :

Other Bay of Biscay and Atlantic Ocean Luftwaffe units
While operating from Brest, 5./B.F.Gr. 196, 1./S.A.Gr. 128 and 10./Z.G. 1 worked alongside other German units under the Fliegerführer Atlantik. 8./J.G. 2 periodically flew against the Coastal Command anti-submarine aircraft, and in June 1943 the Staffel took on strength some long-range FW 190 A-5/U8s (some of these were kept until February 1944). The best known of the German units flying over the Bay of Biscay was V./K.G. 40 with its Ju 88s (it became I./Z.G. 1 in October 1943). Other units were more enigmatic, like the Me 410-equipped 7./Z.G. 1, which flew a single six-aircraft mission on 28 July 1943, before leaving the next day. Other elements of Z.G. 1 and Z.G. 26 also made appearances over the Bay in 1943 and 1944 with Ju 88s and Bf 110s. 1./S.A.Gr. 129 operated the BV 138 and BV 222, while 2./S.A.Gr. 128 flew the Ar 196 A-3.

Regards Hans

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Hi Ed,

Thank that a nice found and i suspect there is more to be found about this.

Regards Hans

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Hans, you can not be serious? This was not KG 40 aircraft.
I help no more. Period. -Ed

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Really? Where do you hope to find it? So far as I am aware, before I researched and wrote that piece on KGr. 126, no one had realised that He 111 torpedo operations were taking place that early. At least three other people had written about Lorenz's operations, from sources indicating that these flights had begun in November 1940.

If you still doubt what people who have done serious work on this topic are telling you, then you will get little further on the internet. Apart from the books already recommended, you could make a start by buying Chris Goss's "Bloody Biscay" and the two volumes of his "Sea Eagles: Luftwaffe Anti-Shipping Units 1939–45" series; Harold Thiele's "Luftwaffe Aerial Torpedo Aircraft and Operations in World War II", Werner Stocker and Peter Petrick's "Me 210/Me 410 Hornisse Hornet" and Adam Thompson's "Küstenflieger: The Operational History of the German Naval Air Service 1935-1944."

Then, if you are not able to spend time at the UK National Archives, buy a subscription to the American archives website Fold3.com where you will find the daily war diaries of the British Admiralty for the entire war. By studying these for the period September 1939–August 1944 you will be able to assess every known report of aircraft attacks on shipping in the Biscay and Atlantic areas and come to your own conclusions.

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Hans -

Up to now, I thought this discussion was about KG 40 and the Me 410-equipped V./KG 2. Now it seems to have morphed into a discussion of any and all Me 410-equipped units in the West.

I have no dispute with the Andrew Arthy article. In the second half of July 1943, 7./ZG 1 was ordered to Brest/Süd to fly fighter patrols over the Bay of Biscay after re-equipping with Me 410's in Germany (probably at Wittmundhafen or Hildesheim), but it was recalled back to the Reich after less than a month in France to rejoin the rest of III./ZG 1 which was arriving from Sicily and Italy at that time. It reported no combat losses while at Brest/Süd but one Me 410 A-1 was damaged in a taxying mishap there on 26 July.

L.

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Hi Nick,

Sorry my intention was not to argue about what research people have done and i am not here to create a controversy on the subject but sometime even the best researchers forgot a few thing here and there and i didn't know we cannot talk about it without people becoming mad.

I was polite and simply asking about it and even if you tell me that this poster or this poster is the ultimate authority over the subject then all i can reply is that i don't know anybody here, so it a matter of trust that about it.

I see no reason for people getting rude over this.

Regards Hans

Re: We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

Hi Ed,

I think that since my native language is not English i really don't understand why you are getting rude.

Regards Hans

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Hi Larry,

Thank and i saw an article also mentioning them in Brest but i came across the Bordeaux-Merignac historical society and on their site they again mention Me 410 so honestly i am completely at lost regarding this and people are starting to be mad about me, so i think i should not ask anything more about this here.

Regards Hans

Re: We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

People are becoming exasperated because they freely offered you information which you appear not to trust and instead raise further questions. Nobody here is claiming to be the ultimate authority on anything but please consider that some of them might be the best authorities available, having devoted decades to researches in areas where they know that the information is - and will remain - fragmentary. The books that have been suggested to you are by serious people who have done huge amounts of original work on the Luftwaffe and are all well worth reading if you are genuinely interested in the subjects they cover.

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Hi Nick,

English is not my native language so maybe that doesn't help and i am trying my best to explain what i have in mind.

Also i went trough a lot of books and those books are suppose to be very relevant and some have evident contradictions over KG 40 so that the reason i think that if no one who was really there at the period then they all might had partial info on the subject.

One thing i do understand now after some further reading last night is that KG 40 was spread in many airfields like Brest, Cognac and Bordeaux so that alone can bring a lot of confusion in writers if they were not careful specifying airplane type on 3 or 4 different airfield from the same group.

I am asking a lot of questions but do you know the reason why mainly?

It is simply because when us developers are making an historical sim we have to make sure we don't introduce historically inaccuracy or else we get bash by everyone and our Sim is label as an arcade game!

Regards Hans

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You have been pointed out the whole bird(s), flocks of birds even, but you choose chase the odd feather. I think your method of doing research is at fault. First build your big picture before go into tiny details. There are lots of good (and also bad) books out there, try also inter-libray loans, if the book you have been pointed to, is not available at your local library. Visiting the Bundesarchiv is also an option, if its close. -Ed

Re: We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac
 

Hi Ed,

My apologies if i said something that you didn't like but i had no bad intentions at all so that why i didn't understand your reaction.

I know the Bundesarchiv but i stop looking after looking for a few hours and if i can find some shortcuts to save some time then i can work on the Sim.

As an example i have a fantastic poster Tommy on the Bismarck forum and so far he is helping us big time in a very professional way.

Regards Hans