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Hi All,
can anybody identify the crashite of this Ju 52 ? Who knows more under these dada to be seen on attachment ? Image once handed over to me by Ed North.
Best
dnalor

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Graz is a city in Austria with a airport used by training units in the war.
I passed it 4 times this year visiting family in Slovenia.

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Thanks GOGH for reply,
yes, I was looking for info around Graz but negative.
So i am still waiting and searching....
Best
dnalor

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Hello,

belongend to LnVRgt Köthen in 1941 and when crashed flown by FlKpLn-Rgt 4. There are photos from the crashed Ju 52 at the Alps in Austria!!
h.

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Thanks Hans
for your information. Do you have a free foto version of the landed Ju 52 in the Austrian Alps? I tried to find the crashsite around Graz and close Alps, but negative.
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dnalorhttp://forum.12oclockhigh.net/images/icons/icon7.gif

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from Ebay

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This is great,
thx for publishing the fotos on the Forum.
Perhaps we get decisive hints re the crashsite itself.
Best
dnalor

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Would it be this one ?

http://www.museumspartner.com/en/all...-glaciers.html

The place mentionned is "Umbalkees" in the eastern Tyrol, does it match ?

GC

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Dear Gilles,
you much know about the Ju 52 in Eastern Tyrol, where I live. Sorry to say, the Ju on Forum foto is definetly not that one from Umbal glacier !!
I have some sumer taken mountain fotos from Styria/Austria which are resembling to the background on Forum foto. But they do not really match and coincide with mountain peaks on Forum Foto. So we go on looking for the area, which would fit per 100 percent. Thx for engagement.
Each reply is welcome
Best dnalor

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As per crash report in the GQM files:
The aircraft had to make an emergency landing due to iced up wings on 28.03.42 at the Hohe Tatra in Slowakia. The accident was only documented by a unit from Graz.

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HI Merlin,
this seems to be another top message, aiming at another region, Hohe Tatra.
I will try to find someone there who can confirm the mountain scenery. Anyway a great turn in our research.
I am interested in the GQM files. Are they free, where to get them?
Thx for effort, perhaps we receive a refering recent foto one day.
Best
dnalor

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Is the same incident?

Ju 52/3m, , Schäfer, , , Fl.Komp., Ln.Rgt. 4, , , , , 28-Mar-42, Injured, cause not reported. Bf & Bm also injured., Other casualties listed in s.Aufstellung Verbände v.4.4 lfd.Nr.39. (From same day - did not copy this.), Fl.Truppe-Sonstige/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8, , Berg Salain, b, F, Bf Ofw. Ernst Rech & Bm Solty, ,

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Dear Jim,
due to all contributions we solved the crashite and the involved crew.
Yes you are right, it is the Tatra incident and my friend Peter Kassak from Slovakia has sent me this list, similar to yours:

Hi Roland
I register this a/c of Fl.Kp./Ln.-Rgt. 4 as crashed on 28.3.1942 in Salatin - Zverovka. The are is this hilly area located on the photos. the crew was:
Lt. Wilhelm Schaffert : pilot
Ofw. Ernst Rech (WIA): Bordfunker
Karl Solty (WIA): Bordmechaniker
Uffz. AlfredHeimann (KIA):
Gefr. Hans Möckel (KIA):
Ogfr. Karl Stivink (KIA):
Gefr. Alexander von Lingelsheim (KIA):
Tech.Insp. Friedrich Jegori (WIA):
Ogfr. Helmut Loewe (WIA):

Lt. Seifert, (WIA):
From: Peter Kassak Slovakia

For comparison 2 fotos: With Ju 52, left background Little Salatin
Little Salatn recent coloured foto
Thanks for contribution
dnalor

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Seems it had not been recovered, no traces later...these birds of the Ln-Rgt were probably precious, so seems landing had been pretty hard, a piece of luck there for the crew...

Aside of this case, Wonder if anybody has spurs of the Wn 3915, because the next in the row NR+AG was Wn 3916.

...

Rémi

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And (from Ultra in 1940): Ju 52 W.Nr. 5903, NR+AB.

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You are right,Nick, so many Wn are missing there, Wonder if the 59xx Wn series has not been built before mid-39, the STKZ would hv been in that case given at the unit level , the Ln-Rgt, in fact quite all of the NR+A , prior 1942, has link with Ln/Rgt -KGr.100 , same for NN+O , NQ+A, TA+B

Rémi

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Ju 52/3m, 5915, ./., , , , SEDTA, , HC-SAB, , , 12-Oct-38, Crashed in Ecuador. Was ex D-APDF., Ex-'D-APDF'., , The Junkers Homepage, , -, -, H, , ,