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steve sheridan 5th June 2016 23:16

Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hello, could anybody provide the loss details for Oblt.Johannes Richter and crew
who failed to return from ops 17.9.42.

Best regs,
Steve.

G.R.Morrison 6th June 2016 04:45

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Ju 88A-4 WNr.144120 of the III./KG 51
Oblt. Hans Richter MIA 17.Sept. 1942 with crew [Beobachter Fw. Heinz Paschen, Bordfunker Uffz. Herbert Bohm & Bordschütze Ogefr. Alfons Albers] after Bruchlandung in PlQu. 30 82 due to engine trouble.

GRM

Reiner 6th June 2016 13:21

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi Steve

This photo show some officers from III./KG51. From left to right: Oblt.Bräck (Staka 8./KG51 and MIA 11.1.1943), Hptm.Heilmann (Staka 7./KG51, KIA 12.9.1942), Oblt.Richter (MIA 17.9.1942) and Oblt.Fritsch (IA III./KG51). Tazinskaja, September 1942.

Regards, Rene

steve sheridan 6th June 2016 13:49

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Many thanks for the loss grm and the super photo Rene, much appreciated as always.
I don't have anything for Brack lost on 11.1.43, was Lt.Peuker part of his crew?

Kindest regs,
Steve.

Matti Salonen 6th June 2016 14:46

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
1943-01-11, 8./KG 51, Ju 88 A-4, 0885628, 9K+FS, (Ostowzanskij) (Pl.Qu. 38/2/4)
Flugzeugführer (Staffelkapitän) Olt Bräck, Hermann, vermißt
Kampfbeobachter Ofw Sorg, Helmut, vermißt
Bordfunker Uffz Braig, Karl, vermißt
Bordschütze Uffz Dingel, Jacob, vermißt
Unbekannt um 07.25 Uhr. Bruch 100 %.
1943-01-11, 2./KG 51, Ju 88 A-4, 0884557, 9K+KK, (Pnikolajewskaja)
Flugzeugführer Lt Peuker, Friedrich, gefangen
Beobachter Fw Paschke, Heinz, gefangen
Bordfunker Ogfr Müller, Hugo, gefangen
Bordschütze Uffz Ising, Wilhelm, gefangen
Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

steve sheridan 6th June 2016 23:18

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Thanks very much Matti, this clears up the names I have from Dietrich's book and now I have their respective a/c identities.
Kindest regs,
Steve.

DDT 7th June 2016 18:34

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Rene, Matti,

As usual great information. But I wonder if you know the crew members of St.Kap. Walter Heilmann who was lost in 9K+AR on the 12th of September 1942? Kind regards.
Dirk

Reiner 7th June 2016 19:25

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi Dirk
This is Hptm.Heilmann shortly before he was shot down with his crew :
Kampfbeobachter Ogefr.Albert Huber
Bordfunker Flieger Horst Rehling
Bordschütze Uffz.Heinz Haase

photo from l.t.r.: Hptm.Walter Heilmann, Uffz.Heinz Haase, Fw.Heinz Paschke (see Peuker crew 11.1.1943), Flieger Horst Rehling. Tazinskaja Sept.1942
regards, Rene

Matti Salonen 7th June 2016 21:02

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
1942-09-12, 7./KG 51, Ju 88 A-4, 0885755, 9K+AR, Pl.Qu. 4933
Flugzeugführer (Staffelkapitän) Hptm Heilmann, Walter, +
Kampfbeobachter Ogfr Huber, Albert, +
Bordfunker Flg Rehling, Horst, +
Bordschütze Uffz Haase, Heinz, +
Flakbeschuß um 11.15 Uhr. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

DDT 9th June 2016 19:00

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Rene, Matti,

Great info as usual and nice picture. Thx for sharing.
Kind regards,

Dirk

Reiner 9th June 2016 20:23

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi

Flieger Horst Rehling was an experienced radio operator. He flew a lot of sorties, was highly decorated, but he remained Flieger. I believe that he flew in the 7./KG51 since the beginning of the Russian campaign.
Somewhere, I have another photo of him, also one with Fw.Heinz Paschen from the Oblt. Richter crew.

Rene

Reiner 11th June 2016 08:25

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hello

picture1
from left to right : Flieger Horst Rehling, unknown Lt., Uffz.Oskar Honrich (KIA 19.2.1943)
picture2
l.t.r. Oblt.Poppenburg, Fw.Heinz Paschen, Hptm.Heilmann,Lt.Bormann, Ofw.Breckner, Ofw.Fietze ( 2000er Feindflug der 7./KG51, Tazinskaja,September 1941)

Greetings, Rene

DDT 12th June 2016 08:18

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi Rene,

Cool pictures👍 I scrolled my data about KG 51, but I can't find the loss concerning Uffz. Honrich. By any chance, you don't have the full crew list and staffel number of this loss?
Kind regards.
Dirk

Matti Salonen 12th June 2016 10:19

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
1943-02-19, 7./KG 51, Ju 88 A-4, 0888718, 9K+HR, Noworossijsk
Flugzeugführer Uffz Brehm, Oskar, +
Kampfbeobachter Uffz Andriani, Heinz, +
Bordfunker Fw Gramberg, Reinhard, verletzt
Bordschütze Uffz Honrich, Oskar, +
Flakbeschuß. Bruch 90 %.

Matti

Reiner 12th June 2016 15:12

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi

Uffz.Adriani, Uffz.Gramberg and Uffz Honrich belonged to the crew of Oblt.Poppenburg. Gramberg and Adriani flew with Poppenburg since the GKFs Tutow 1940. Uffz.Honrich came in January 1942 to the crew. End of January 1943 the Poppenburg crew should be moved into the Reich to the KG101. Poppenburg left the III./KG51 and due to the war situation his crew had to fly missions with the new pilot Uffz Brehm. Uffz. Gramberg told me in 2002 that the third sortie with Brehm was the last. After an attack at Novorossiysk Brehm curved again over the target and the Ju88 got a hit in the right wing and burned. The attempt of the emergency landing on its own territory ended in a disaster. Only Gramberg survived, was mentally badly wounded despite minor injuries. Gramberg passed away in 2015.

photo from left to right:
Oblt.Poppenburg, Hptm.Heilmann, Uffz.Adriani, Uffz.Honrich(100.FF) Tazinskaja - August 1942

steve sheridan 12th June 2016 16:08

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi Rene, great to see these wonderful photos so thanks for sharing them with us.

On 23.8.42 when Poppenburg landed to rescue the crew of Mjr.Von Bibra, is it
known whether Adriani, Gramberg and Honrich were part of Poppenberg's crew
on this day?

Best regs,
Steve.

Reiner 12th June 2016 17:49

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi Steve
I can not say 100% whether Poppenburg flew with this crew. Gramberg said about this that this was not a heroic act, it was often that crews were rescued by the own comrades. I believe that was these crew. On the picture you can see the 9K + AD, but the crews and aircraft changed.

Greetings, Rene

Reiner 12th June 2016 17:54

Re: Oblt.Johannes Richter KG51 17.9.42
 
Hi Steve
I can not say 100% whether Poppenburg flew with this crew. Gramberg said about this that this was not a heroic act, it was often that crews were rescued by the own comrades. I believe that was these crew. On the picture you can see the 9K + AD, but the crews and aircraft changed.
This photo is from Gramberg, the same situation.
Greetings, Rene


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