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Chris Goss 6th July 2016 17:20

Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Does anyone have a record of a Mustang crash-landing not far from Prizren during this month?

vathra 6th July 2016 17:45

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
I don't have info on any Mustang crashed in Kosovo.

Plane 44-13436, Edward Isackson KIA, that was last seen on August 10 near Skopje.
It is only 60km from Prizren, so it is possible he crashed there.

What info you have on crash?
Specific date could help a lot.

Chris Goss 6th July 2016 17:47

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
I have a photo with the date and location on the reverse but that is all

Boris Ciglic 6th July 2016 20:33

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Hi Chris,

Is it a RAF or USAAF machine?

Cheers,
Boris

vathra 6th July 2016 20:36

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Is there exact date?
And is it possible to see markings on plane which may point to some fighter group?

Chris Goss 6th July 2016 22:09

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
It is a Mustang, belly landed in Kosovo. No idea of if it is RAF or USAAF as no markings can be seen. Photographer just wrote Aug 44. Will post if needs be

vathra 7th July 2016 11:48

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
It would be nice to post photo, if it is not a problem.

Chris Goss 7th July 2016 12:32

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
This is it

Boris Ciglic 7th July 2016 19:35

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Hi Chris,

Very interesting photo (at least for us in Serbia). This is definitely RAF machine and as such the 213 Sqn is the only candidate and they were quite active in that area in that particular time frame. From the data that I have an Mk.III might fit into the picture.

On 27 July F/Sgt A Smailes was hit by flak during a loco hunt in the area Priština - Kosovska Mitrovica and reputedly force landed 5 km NE of Uroševac (which is some 40 km NE of Prizren). It could have been a small navigational error on behalf of the returning pilots, as I know for many instances when RAF & USAAF pilots missed their whereabouts over Yugoslavia for quite a distance.

None of the August losses fits so well. Two pilots were killed, two bailed out and the one that made a forced landing did so in Croatia, in Partisan-held territory.

Cheers,
Boris

Chris Goss 8th July 2016 11:08

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Boris/Vathra

I have looked closer at what is written on the back of the photo and it now appears to be Strecke Kragujevac-Prizren. A bit more digging and I have found that 174145 Fg Off Anthony Archibald Smailes force-landed 3 miles NE of Uroševac 1015 hrs 27 July 1944 and was taken POW. Serial, which is incorrect, is stated to be B318? Does this help?

SteveB 8th July 2016 11:32

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Hi coming late into this!
FB318 was the aircraft Tony Smailes was flying on 27 July and the codes were AK-D. There is a better photo of this aircraft when first delivered in the Air Britain 213Sqn history "The Hornet Strikes" page 127.
Steve

vathra 8th July 2016 15:31

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 220439)
Boris/Vathra

I have looked closer at what is written on the back of the photo and it now appears to be Strecke Kragujevac-Prizren.

Hello Chris,

Road Kragujevac-Prizren sounds pretty strange, because they are far away, with several crossroads in between.

Maybe it is written Djakovica-Prizren?

I also think that it is RAF plane, but since I have only material for american planes (MACRs and Escape statements), I can be of little help here.

Chris Goss 8th July 2016 17:28

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
It is strange but that is what is definitely written.

I have had 2 more suggestions:

FB324/213 Sqn, Flak 50 miles NW Pristina 9 Aug 44
FB322/213 Sqn, Flak Hovice, 4 Aug 44

SteveB 8th July 2016 18:03

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
I think, as Boris wrote, these aircraft were a total loss.

On 4/8/44 2/Lt S W Pienaar (SAAF) was flying FB322...he called up to say his arm was injured and that he was going to force land. 1 mile NNW of ILOVICE aircraft was seen to crash into side of wood, bursting into flames. Pilot did not get out of aircraft.

Om 9/8/44 Lt L J Leach (SAAF) was flying FB324...1 aircraft was seen to be hit by moderate light flak from area West of PRISTINA. Flash or flame from cockpit seen, probably direct hit. aircraft heeled over, diving vertically into ground from 500 ft. A/c burst into flames on impact.

Schoeman has both pilots kia on these dates.

Steve

vathra 8th July 2016 19:59

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 220452)
It is strange but that is what is definitely written.

I have had 2 more suggestions:

FB324/213 Sqn, Flak 50 miles NW Pristina 9 Aug 44
FB322/213 Sqn, Flak Hovice, 4 Aug 44

In that case, we should not limit search to Kosovo, and searching through central Serbia would be appropriate.

Dénes Bernád 1st March 2019 14:11

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
Is there a MACR for Lt. Edward Isackson, P-51D pilot, KIA on 10 Aug. 1944?

Alex Smart 1st March 2019 14:47

Re: Mustang Loss Kosovo Aug 1944
 
MACR 7201,
position given as 25 miles North of Skoplje, Yugoslavia.date August 10th 1944.
Pilots chute was thought to have caught on the Cockpit and he went down with the a/c. MACR is 5 pages and in Fold3.


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