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eknutson 4th August 2016 22:50

Need help with text in flugbuch Fw58 Norway
 
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Hi, i have bought a flugbuch from verner voss. He did some flights in Fw58 out from Sola KR + CY and KT + AH (HH) in 1942. Proably with T.Gr 20
On two full pages he have written some information dated april 45.
I need som help to translate this.

eknutson 4th August 2016 22:54

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lilsis 5th August 2016 09:27

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Last 4 Lines from Original (behind Günter Telefon!) side 2


....Günter Telefon.

Der Gerufene, ein 18 jähriger junger Mann von gesundem Aussehen, leuchtenden blauen Augen und blonden Haaren, schob sich lässig in seinem ölbefleckten Monteuranzug durch die ..... zum Glaskasten.

At Moment i am busy, later more. NAchtrag: ..... = Drehbänke // durch die Drehbänkezum "GLaskasten

red-star25 5th August 2016 10:20

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On the first page I can read the last line:
"Hier Frau Vogel, Könnte ich bitte meinen Sohn sprechen?" "Einen Moment bitte, ich verbinde!"..
The other ones will take more time to dephicer.
Looks like, that here is written a communication between some people.

Regards

Dirk

lilsis 5th August 2016 11:03

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1. side 1. line : 1. Einberufung und Abschied vom Zivilleben, 2. Rekrutenzeit

eknutson 5th August 2016 11:23

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Tanks for the replays. I had hoped this was information related to his service in Norway. Insted it looks to be a young boy trying to contackt his family trough a Germany in caos. But the refrence to seinem ölbefleckten Monteuranzug maybe still conects him with the luftwaffe.

lilsis 5th August 2016 11:32

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hi,

The First side is more like a curriculum vitae

Side 1 :Flugzeugführerschule 4 B125 ..... , 5. JG 106 Lachen-Speyersdorf, Reichsüberprüfungsstelle für Flugzeugführer JG 108 Bad Vöslaz sorry Bad Vöslau, 6 .......... .. Münchendorf, 3. JG Ost ....nitz

lilsis 5th August 2016 12:54

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Side 2


Pausen! - Then stripes -Frau Vogel! .... Herr Paulsen , kann ich meinen Sohn Günter sprechen?
Sofort Frau Vogel. Meister Paulsen, ein Veteran des Betriebes Hellwig & ..elzer, Dreherei & Armaturen

Rasmussen 5th August 2016 20:28

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1.side,1.line: "...3.) ULK "Monte Rosa"..."
1.side,2.line: "...AB 125 (not ...schule 4 B125) Neukuhren, ..."
1.side,3.line: "... Bad Vöslau mit Abschnitten in ..."
1.side,4.line: "... 3.JG Ost Liegnitz"

Rasmussen 5th August 2016 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eknutson (Post 221653)
But the refrence to seinem ölbefleckten Monteuranzug maybe still conects him with the luftwaffe.

Does not necessarily mean he was a member of Luftwaffe, it's more probable that's an normal working suit of an metal working shop.

eknutson 29th June 2017 12:40

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so far.

1. Einberufung und Abschied vom Zivilleben, 2.) Rekrutenzeit,3.) ULK " Monte Rosa "
4.)...AB 125 Neukuhren, 5.) JG 106 Lachen-Speyersdorf.
6.) Reichsüberprüfungsstelle für Flugzeugführer JG 108 Bad Vöslau mit
Abschnitten auf Münchendorf. 3.JG Ost Liegnitz.
1. .... 2 mai 1941, drrr,drrrr,drrrr.... vor Günter ?
... ? Hier Frau Vogel, Könnte ich bitte meinen Sohn sprechen?" "Einen Moment bitte, ich verbinde!"..
Zofort frau Vogel." ...

Zelefon !" Der Gerufene, ein 18 jähriger junger Mann von gesundem
Aussehen, leuchtenden blauen Augen und blonden Haaren, schob sich lässig
in seinem ölbefleckten Monteuranzug durch (Durf ?) die ..... zum Glaskasten.


"Monte rosa" is a ship used for transport to and from Norway ( and proably other counties) was sarbotaged in norway.

He is leaving Norway with Ju52 as a Begeliter, to Aalborg Øst 26.6.1942 then to Kopenhagen the same day.
Is his name to be found at Værløse after this within the training services?

Ernst

Rasmussen 29th June 2017 16:22

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The corrected and quite complete (one missing word) text:

1. Einberufung und Abschied vom Zivilleben, 2.) Rekrutenzeit,3.) ULK " Monte Rosa "
4.)Flugzeugführerschule AB 125 Neukuhren, 5.) JG 106 Lachen-Speyer(s)dorf.
6.) Reichsüberprüfungsstelle für Flugzeugführer 7.) JG 108 Bad Vöslau mit
Abschnitten auf Münchendorf. 3.JG Ost Liegnitz.
1. ....den 2.Mai 1941, drrr,drrrr,drrrr.... "Ja, bitte? Hier Hellwig & Belzer." "Hier Frau Vogel, Könnte ich bitte meinen Sohn sprechen?" "Einen Moment bitte, ich verbinde!"..."Paulsen!" "Tag Herr Paulsen, kann ich Günther sprechen?" .. "Sofort Frau Vogel." ... Meister Paulsen, ein Veteran des Betriebes Hellwig & Belzer, Dreherei & Armaturen, öffnet seinen 'Glaskasten', der seines Aussehens wegen so von den Arbeitern genannt wird und ruft, den Krach der Transmissionen u. Motoren übertönend "Günther, Telefon !" Der Gerufene, ein 18 jähriger junger Mann von gesundem Aussehen, leuchtenden blauen Augen und blonden Haaren, schob sich lässig in seinem ölbefleckten Monteuranzug durch die Drehbänke zum Glaskasten.

The "Monte Rosa" was used as residential ship in Stettin for Fliegeranwärterbataillone from January 1940 to 1942 (I'd guess this was the point 3.)). ULK is Unteroffiziers - Lehrkompanie.

eknutson 29th June 2017 23:27

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Thanks for the correction Rasmussen.

After 1. Heimatfluge (reise) ? 2 Mai ... So he look thve had a long service in luftwaffe as begliter and flugzeugfurer.

Later he was with Jg302
Downed B-24 in 24.5 and 9.6 1944
Wounded in action with his G6 wnr 441625 8.7.44
So this is proably written in hospital.
I have only 6 flights in my loggbook, so were is all the others
Hopfully there are more flights in Norway earlier.

Rasmussen 30th June 2017 03:35

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"Heimatflug" --- I don't believe it. The first word(s) was (were) overwritten, the last word looks like the name of a town "... burg" I'd guess ...


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