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zorglub 25th August 2016 16:58

Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
Hello Gentlemen ,

As usual I do have a request ... if a nice fellow could identify a german bomber crashed at Gravenchon / Lillebonne that day . Three airmen reported dead and buried at the local cemetary . What about plane , unit and crew ?
Thank you ,

Zorglub .

Chris Goss 25th August 2016 17:42

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
I have this as 2210 hrs on the night of 11-12 Dec 40. He 111 P-2, 2595 5./KG 27. Damaged by night fighter and crashed at Lillebon/Gravenchon. Lt Edmund Tremel, Uffz Willi Terhaag and Uffz Herbert Rubach killed, Fw Helmut Sakasser ?

zorglub 25th August 2016 18:03

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
And once again you're the winner Chris . Many thanks !
I guess Sakasser survived ?

Zorglub

Chris Goss 25th August 2016 18:11

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
I believe so. The location came from Luftflotte 3 which confirms both the time and date. However, I have no night fighter damaging an He 111 that night

Brian Bines 25th August 2016 18:42

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
Original GQM report dated 14-12-1940 shows Sakasser as missing but crossed out with date 26/1 next to it. Report dated 26-1-1941 referring to the first report then has Streiche 1 Vermisstan but no details shown so it looks like Sakasser survived.

Frans A 26th August 2016 12:09

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
Chris,
Who was the pilot?
Frans A

Brian Bines 26th August 2016 13:26

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
Ff Lt Edmund Tremel, B Uffz Willi Terhaag , Bf Uffz Herbert Rubach , Bs Fw Helmut Sakasser ,

Regards
Brian Bines

Chris Goss 26th August 2016 13:26

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
Tremel

Frans A 26th August 2016 15:44

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
Brian, Chris,
Thank you both.
Frans A

James A Pratt III 2nd September 2016 18:48

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
This is from the book "Battle of Britain the Forgotten Months" by john Foreman on 11 Dec 40 he has Hurricanes of 145 Sqn flown by F/L B.A. Bungay and P/O J.H.M. Offenberg attacking and inflicting heavy damage on this machine at around 1800 and it crashing in F
at la Harve.

Chris Goss 2nd September 2016 19:01

Re: Luftwaffe loss , 12 December 1940 , Normandy
 
There would be at least 3 hours difference between the 145 Sqn claim (1800 hrs) and the crash time of the He 111 (2210 hrs) and its doesn't take that long to get from Littlehampton to Le Havre


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