Luftwaffe KG100 KIA June 18, 1944
 

Hi, hope anyone can help me, I'm seeking information on a member of KG100 that was KIA June 18, 1944, or close to that date. I seek information Hermann Kenter that is reported as a member of this unit. I know very little of WW2, and even less of the Luftwaffe. I have seen a squadron history of KG100, but all copies seen thus far are in German, and of no help to me.

Would like to find any and all information on Hermann Kenter, any reports on how he was KIA, after action report, mission objective, anything. Mostly I would like to know where he is buried hoping one day to get a photo of his grave, somewhere in Western France.

A friend in Germany provided the information below, hopefully someone in this group can help provide me with some history on this flight crew member.

I have his uniform, visor cap, letter, and photo.

Hermann Kenter was born in 1919 in Schöttmar/Detmold in northern Germany.
His father (werner) was a teacher, his mother was a housewife. This family used to have a nice farm and wasn't really poor.
Anyways; he passed school and since he was in "the right age" he joined the youth movement of the nationalists pretty early in 1932 - when these organizations all became one (Hitler jugend) - he joined the "Luftwaffe HJ".
That's where he also made the license to fly non engine planes already at a pretty young age.
Right after the HJ, he joined (as a volunteer) the Luftwaffe as a bomber crew member and became a part of the Kampfgeschwader 100.
He has taken apart in most likely each battlefield this geschwader saw...Poland..Norway..Battle of britain...eastern front..southern front (Sicily)...operation "Steinbock"..and last but not least in France..that's also where he was killed in action. Just 12 days after operation Overlord (DDAY) has begun.
His grave is in western France, the lady didn't remember the name of the city unfortunately; but he's not lost in action or something...his family immediately got mailed that their son/brother was kia.

That's all the information i have so far!

I do appreciate any and al information, and any direction. Thank you,

Chris Carroll

Re: Luftwaffe KG100 KIA June 18, 1944
 

A search of the German War Graves database does not show anybody by that name dead in June 1944. For all of 1944 there are only four Kenters recorded and none of them is a Hermann.

From a quick look, the recent French history of KG 100 does not include any Kenter among the known personnel of the unit. The same book shows only one aircraft lost between 14 and 23 June; this was on the 17th, and again no Kenter in the crew.

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The uniform appears to be for a Bordfunker. Someone who had flown that long would no doubt be well decorated & recorded in many of the award books?

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Hi,

I have a Hermann Kenter in my database, but not as a Member of KG 100.
This man was a member of 2./ JG 5 an was shot down in a Bf 109 G-5/ AS Wnr. 110 043 Area of Dechy in France.

Regards Rüdiger
Source: Mombeek JG 5

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Nick, thank you so much for your response, I do appreciate it very much. It helps me verify the story, and possibly he was in another unit.

Rüdiger, thank you for your response as well, it's possible my friend got the unit wrong. Can you give me any more details on the Kenter in 2./ JG 5? I don't understand what "G-5/ AS Wnr. 110 043" means?

Rüdiger, did he survive being shot down??

Contacted the guy in Germany today. He says the family still has his wherpass, licenses, possibly a photo of his grave. There are as well letters, I may get a copy of also. Hopefully this will help clear this up. Given that most records and histories are incomplete, in the end maybe this will be an addition given primary source documentation. I will follow up.

Re: Luftwaffe KG100 KIA June 18, 1944
 

Hello Chris,

Hermman Kentner was shot down in an Bf 109 G-5/ AS (fighter) with the Werkmummer (factorynumber) 110 043. He was a Fahnenjunkerunteroffizier (Officers candidate) and was killed in the crash.

Regards Rüdiger

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Thank you very much Rüdiger, your assistance is very kind. Does it mention the date he was shot down over Dechy, France, action report, or any information or details? This is fascinating history, a new era for me, it's all about those that made the sacrifice. The relics only compliment the story, but yet our physical extension to that story (history). All of you guys have been fantastic, thank you...

Re: Luftwaffe KG100 KIA June 18, 1944
 

Hello Chris,

some Details from the Book JG 5 Eismeerjäger by Eric Mombeek.

Saturday 27.06.1944

Sorry , my english is nor good, I try to translate the german text.
By this day the Group of I./ JG 5 took part active in the fights of the Normandy. The fighters shall remember alliied fighterbombers, that they are not alone in the sky of the Normandy, as they could mean. In a dogfight FhjUffz. Hermann Kentner (2./ JG 5) is killed , when his Bf 109 crashed near the a/c of Dechy east of Douai.A secon Bf 109 G-6 egt some damage und is able to make a bellyland (100%)
Both machines are shot down by pilotes of the 56th FG/ 62nd FS.

That's what I have.

Best regards Rüdiger

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Messerschmitt Bf 109, the G-5 model (which had a pressurised cockpit) with the Daimler-Benz DB 605 AS series engine (improved performance over the standard DB 605 A). Werk Nummer (factory serial number) 110 043. Its individual number (painted on the fuselage) was "black 7."

Shot down at Dechy, near Douai in NE France.

Information from Jean-Bernard Frappé « La Luftwaffe face au Débarquement Allié » (Éditions Heimdal, 1999)

Re: Luftwaffe KG100 KIA June 18, 1944
 

Hello Chris Carroll,

Please do find here the relevant combat reports for the 27th June 1944: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...r-reports.html

Just digit: 27 June 1944

You will need a more precise information regarding the place of crash, etc...to pin-point the "probable victor".


Most humbly yours (Cheerio)
Adriano S. Baumgartner, ASV 00.344

Re: Luftwaffe KG100 KIA June 18, 1944
 

Thank you both Rüdiger and Nick, the information was very helpful. It appears Capt. Fred Christensen of the 62nd Squadron shot Kentner down between Lens and Cambrai per his report enclosed. Dechy is about 5 miles N of this track. Really great information. Link to his report.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...n-27june44.jpg

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Thank you as well Adriano for the 56th reports. I haven't read the last 4. It still leaves without doubt Capt. Fred Christensen shot down Kentner of JG 5, as all other victories were further south near mission objective.

I created 2 maps on Google earth, 1st showing area where Christensen was engaged, and where Kentner went down.

2nd map shows further south the mission objectives.

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The recommended book "2nd TAC by - Classic Publications" do inform that: "Jagdwaffe losses (for the day) totalled 28 aircraft, 7 Fw 190 and 21 Bf 109. 2nd TAF claims included three Focke-Wulfs and eight Messerschmitts, whilst the American pilots believed that they accounted for six Fw 190 and eight Bf 109s".

We can see that the Allied claims totalled 25 of the 28 Jagdwaffe losses...a fair account. Pilots of 442 Squadron (Spitfires) claimed 4 Messerschmitts around Lisieux (12:35/12:40hs) and 65 Squadron (Mustangs) claimed 2 Bf 109, around Dreux-Alençon (around 16:00hs). The last Bf 109 claim was made by a 332 Squadron pilot, also around Dreux, by 21:05hs.

Glad to have helped and happy that you matched the loss X USAAF ace that claimed it. A beautiful piece of History you do have on your hands. It certainly merit a full account (article) isn't it?

Humbly yours,
Adriano S. Baumgartner

(1) Rüdiger,

Does Mombeek JG 5 book, mention Kentner at all by name, other than entry for his death June 27th? Does it mention any awards or victories? Thank you.

(2) Nick,

You mention his plane was #7. Is there by chance, a photo of his plane, or plane from his unit?

(3) Adriano,

yes a wonderful group. This weekend, I hope to get copies of letters, wehrpass, pilot licenses, etc. from the family. And yes, considering an article to honor Kentner/Kenter. Thank you.

(4) This continues to get more confusing, but hopefully someone knows. Rüdiger, Nick, or anyone, is it possible for (2) aircraft have same wkn.???? Matthew Acred an editor of a JG 5 site, notes that Wnr. 110 043 belonged to a different plane. information enclose. Please help if you can. Thanks

(5) Maybe why Kenter not showing in German War Graves, this book enclosed shows him missing. It appears to list his unit as 1./ JG 5, instead of 2./ JG 5.

(6) Does anyone have a scanned copy of Kenter/Kentner from Mombeck's record they could share here?

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(2) I've no idea. Erik Mombeek's JG 5 history would be a good place to look but I don't have a copy.

(4) Yes, aircraft of different types can have the same Werk Nummer: the Arado 234 B and Ju 87 D both used the 140 XXX series, for example; the Bf 109 G-6 and Fw 190 G-3 both used 160 XXX.

(5) The German War Graves database works on names and dates, not units, so I don't think that would be the problem.

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Nick is there an online source for what WNr were assigned to what a/c?

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No comprehensive one that I know of. Of course there have been a number of contributions to this forum about individual models (particularly Bf 109s) and there are also Andrew Arthy's Fw 190 data. I have referred to a number of different books over the years but they mostly deal with one type at a time.

Re: Luftwaffe KG100 KIA June 18, 1944
 

The only mention of a person named Hermann Kentner is the day of his death.
No mention of any awards or victories in the four books of JG 5 by Mombeek.

Regards Rüdiger

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