Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

I have three losses by SAGr130 and another by SAGr125. The former lost to Wildcats of the Fleet Air Arm but the latter possibly to the VVS?

regards

Keith

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Enclosed is my list of some operational BV 138 accidents and losses in May 1944.

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Sorry, the attachment did not come through as intended.
Correct one here.

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Many thanks. I have a loss of a Bv138 to Wildcats of 833(ex-819) Squadron on 1 May 1944.

As well as 2 Bv138 to 898 Squadron on 6.5.1944.

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

I have added the loss on 1. May 1944 to the list.
Do you have more details on the two losses on 6. May 1944.

01.05.44 1.(F)/130 BV 138C-1 0310078 6I+CH
100%. Pl.Qu. 17 Ost/0328. Pos. 7220’ N, 0913’ E.
Shot down by fighters (Wildcats JV332 and FN135) from No. 819 Sq. Fleet Air Arm when shadowing convoy RA59. The last radio signal from the aircraft was at 11.48 hours (German Summer Time) that the plane was being attacked by enemy fighters.
Oblt. (M) Franz Digeser (B) missing
Uffz. Wilhelm Henseler (F) missing
Uffz. Karl-Heinz Fichtel (Bf) missing
Uffz. Karl Arnold (Bm) missing
Ofw. Georg Bleis (Bs) missing

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Sorry very little. I had believed that the combats on 6 and 8 May were so similar that they were the same. Recent evidence proved otherwise. I believe they were all lost by 2.(F) /SAGr 130.

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

According to this sight the 2nd staffel lost 4 in May, the 1st staffel lost 2 and 3rd staffel another.

https://www.asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/b2sagr130.html

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Hi Bjørn

I can find no RAF Mosquito claims on 6th June for German flying boats off Norway. Can you inform me more about which Squadron they belongs to? More likely that this two Bv 138 was those claimed by Martlets of FAA 882 SQN, however I have no details of this attack.

Regards
Knut

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Another site gives 0805hrs 6-5-1944 Sea area of Hustonvkien through Mosquito shot down Qu 7478/05 Ost ( Hustadvika and 06 Ost ?). Aircraft both of 2/SAGr.130 Ff of 310121 killed , B of 310124 wounded all other crewmen missing .

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

In the KTB for Admiral Norwegen the following is mentioned for 6. May 1944:
08.04-08.30 Attack from 40-60 bombers and fighters against two southbound convoys in the sea area between Kristiansund town and the island of Gossen (which is Hustadvika) Three Luftwaffe aircraft were on escort duties for one of the convoys. Two BV 138 were shot down.
17.57 2 enemy aircraft carriers were observed together with one cruiser and 6 destroyers.

2.(F)/130 was stationed in Trondheim-Ilsvika seaplane station.

It seems that there may be aircraft from the two carriers that attacked, and no Mosquitos this time, or ????

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Scroll down to item 131 on http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWD-HF1944b.htm looks like FAA victories no Mosquitos

German ship losses SS Almora cargo, SS Saarburg tanker

Scroll down to operation Croquethttp://www.royalnavyresearcharchive....m#.WCWxdL1LMdc
For Wildcat claims of 898 Sqd for the two Bv 138s on 6th May

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Thank you Brian. Most valuable information and internet sites.
My BV 138 list has been adjusted accordingly.

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Good information Brian....see also my thread on Allied and Soviet forum for 5 November 2016...

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

It was Seaplanes post no 10 that led towards looking into the Naval and FAA info for the 6th May , just shows how working together on this Forum often produces the answers. I assume the death of Ff Oblt Werner Olbertz from 310121 was a 'declared death' as I could not find him on the 'Deutsche Flieger unter dem Nordlicht' listings

Regards
Brian Bines

Re: Bv138 losses in May 1944.
 

Attached are extracts from the Operational Watch Reports for 1 and 6 May (National Archives HW13/39).