Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Hi,

Can someone please provide loss details for Uffz. Hans Berger who was killed on a mission on the 21st February 1941?

He was an experienced flier with the EK I .

Thanks you

Rick

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

1941-02-20, 9./KG 27, He 111 P-2, 1590, 1G+HT, 600 m westlich Fl.Pl. Avord
Flugzeugführer Ofw Moritz, Hans, +
Bombenschütze Ofw Heinrich, Gerhard, +
Bordfunker Uffz Keiler, Heinrich, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Uffz Berger, Johann, +
Bei Durchstarten nach Nachtfeindflug abgeschmiert. Bruch 100 %. Bordfunker 1941-02-21 im Lazarett gestorben.

Matti

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Hi,

Thanks Matti.

Was this a mission over England?

Rick

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Don't know.

Matti

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

III./KG 27's target for 20-21 & 21-22 Feb 41 was Swansea

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Thanks Chris

Last irritating question - tried to translate Matti's last line and think it says that his aircraft crashed on return flight. Is that right?

Rick

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

As a non-German speaker, "Durchstarten" suggests after take-off to me, but per Walt Waiss in his KG 27 history, also says return.

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Durchstarten is a go-around after a failed approach. So they tried to land, aborted landing at some point to go around, and then went into the ground.

All the best

Andreas

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Thanks!

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Having thought about it more, I would hazard the guess that 'abgeschmiert' means they stalled on go around. It's clearly not a technical term, but to me it would indicate a sudden move straight into the ground.

All the best

Andreas

Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941
 

Hello,

"Durchstarten" - It is a usual manoeuvre at the landing to resume speed and to be able to make a renewed landing.
"abgeschmiert" - Under airman it is a other german word for crash.

In this case the "Durchstarten" has not worked.

Rgds,
Kaczmarek