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Boris Ciglic 2nd February 2017 10:05

German winter and summer time
 
Hello gents,

What were the exact dates throughout the war when the Germans switched from summer to winter time and vice versa.

Cheers,
Boris

Nick Beale 2nd February 2017 10:31

Re: German winter and summer time
 
You can thank Steve Coates for the following, which I've found incredibly useful over the years:

The Germans used CET (Central European Time, which they called MEZ = »mitteleuropäische Zeit«) and GST (German Summer Time)

CET = GMT + 1 hour
GST = GMT + 2 hours

German time varied as follows:–

To
1/4/40 - CET
From
1/4/40 - GST
2/11/42 - CET
29/3/43 - GST
4/10/43 - CET
3/4/44 - GST
2/10/44 - CET
2/4/45 - GST
18/11/45- CET

Paul Thompson 2nd February 2017 10:41

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Very useful information, Nick! Thank you and Steve. Do you happen to have the same for any of the other combatant nations?

Chris Goss 2nd February 2017 10:48

Re: German winter and summer time
 
These changes normally came into effect at 0200 hrs, same with the British. I have times for UK which changed 14 times during the war (at 0200 hrs)

Paul Thompson 2nd February 2017 11:00

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Thank you, Chris. Why did the British change times more frequently? Your email is still the tinyworld one, I assume.

Chris Goss 2nd February 2017 11:07

Re: German winter and summer time
 
I guess to make the most of daylight? Yes the email is the same plus I now have a @gmail.com with the same prefix

Boris Ciglic 2nd February 2017 11:45

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Thanks a lot Chris!

Chris Goss 2nd February 2017 12:05

Re: German winter and summer time
 
...and don't forget Nick!

RT 2nd February 2017 14:40

Re: German winter and summer time
 
We hv to understand , that the brits only change time ???

Rémi

Nick Beale 2nd February 2017 16:15

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 229066)
We hv to understand , that the brits only change time ???

Rémi

I'm not sure what it is you're asking but British times were as follows:
During the war, local time in the UK varied from GMT(Greenwich mean Time) to BST (British Summer Time) to BDST (British Double Summer Time): BST = GMT + 1 hour; BDST = GMT + 2 hours.

16/4/39 - BST
19/11/39 - GMT
25/2/40 - BST
4/5/41 - BDST
10/8/41 - BST
5/4/42 - BDST
9/8/42 - BST
4/4/43 - BDST
15/8/43 - BST
2/4/44 - BDST
17/9/44 - BST
2/4/45 - BDST
15/7/45 - BST
7/10/45 - GMT

RT 2nd February 2017 17:02

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Many thks , Nick, the data for the brit. time was missing so difference. between german time nd british could vary from 0 to 2 hours , but we hv to handle both grids

Rémi

Steve Coates 2nd February 2017 19:36

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Nick - Thanks for the nod.

Without wishing to derail the thread, I do wonder if there is case for the reintroduction of BDST as it really doesn't matter to all but a few in mid-summer whether it's nice and bright at 5.00 or 6.00 AM but the additional hour of light in the evening would probably benefit businesses.

Paul Thompson 2nd February 2017 19:48

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Coates (Post 229078)
I do wonder if there is case for the reintroduction of BDST

Steve, you have chanced upon one of the most persisent pet causes in Great Britain. One Telegraph article will illustrate the point -
"The clocks spring forward: here's why we should never change them back"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...r-change-them/

Regards,

Paul

Steve Coates 2nd February 2017 21:19

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Paul - Whichever way one jumps on this, it's pretty clear you can't please all the people all the time.

Boris Ciglic 2nd February 2017 21:49

Re: German winter and summer time
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 229063)
...and don't forget Nick!

Yes,yes, and first of all to Nick!


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