Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello, here in the room aspect of the district stade a break landung . Pilot has survived. It should have happened in 1945. It must be a tempest or typhoon. Has anyone the crash listeners and could times look if in the area a crash message gives.
Many Thanks
Marcel

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello,
Have you any idea as to what time of the year this occurred ?
Mostly it was Spitfires and several Anson's with a few Tempests .
Alex

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello, it must have been in march april or early may 1945. It must have been a tempest or typhoon since this dial has been found on site.

best regards

Marcel

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Marcel !

Please provide us with a location. With "stade Aspe" no serious research can be done without knowing an exact date of the crash.

Thanks !

Horst Weber

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello,
Crashes in Germany.
1945
Hawker Tempest
March 24 - NV920
April 4 - EJ546
April 24 - SN131
May - 0

Hawker Typhoon
Crashes in Germany
1945
March
2- RB285; MN354.
19 - RB214; RB480.
24 - RB208; RB378; PD597.
25 - RB314
26 - RB454
30 - RB435; RB505; SW495.
31 - RB287.

April
1 - SW408; SW425; RB193.
3 - RB487
4 - RB217
5 - SW445
12 - RB228; PD593; SW391.
13 - SW475
18 - RB482
19 - SW412
20 - RB233
23 - RB342; RB423; SW472.
25 - RB323
26 - RB215; RB264; RB429.

May
3 - PD618; PD466.
14 - RB466
27 - RB453
28 - PD613.

Ref: Aviation Safety Network.

Alex

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello,
Date is not known. And the exact place is The district Stade locality Aspe. Germany. According to newspaper 1945 crashed. Month unknown. It is an English hunter. Pilot got out of the machine

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Could be Tempest V SN205- F/Lt J L Lawson, 222 Sqdn - on the 1st of May 1945
or
Tempest V EJ550 - F/O C E Blee, 486 Sqdn - 3rd of May 1945

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello,

Here is what "The Wild Winds" (The History of No.486 (RNZAF) Sqn.), has to say about the loss of F/O C E Blee:

3 May 1945, (486 Sqn had earlier claimed two (2), Ju 88s shot down).

(p.273). The occasion was marred through the loss of Charlie Blee, who had copped some flak over the Hamburg estuary while returning home with a duff engine. With the five-plane section , Chas managed to get partway back to base and cras-land within friendly lines by Stade, near the bank of the Elbe, but his Tempest (EJ550) hit hard and he was not seen to emerge by those who orbited above him for some minutes. Days later it was learned why - as well as having a total memory he had fractures to his back, skull and arm, and after being picked up by forward army troops was rushed to hospital in Brussels. When the extent of his injuries were determined he was flown back to England where he spent months hospitalised, his body in plaster. It was an uncomfortable time for both Chas and his wife, but the treatment was largely successful, and by the middle of 1946 they were able to sail for New Zealand.

(p.317). Appendix II: Aircrew Nominal Roll.

Rank: F/O
Name: BLEE, Charles Edward
Awards: -
Origin & Nationality: NZ
Period of Service: 4/45-5/45
Fate: Seriously injured 3/5/45.

See:
The Wild Winds The History of Number 486 RNZAF Fighter Squadron with the RAF.
Sortehaug,Paul.
Dunedin:Otago University Print.1998.

Col.

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Many love thanks for the reply.damit I will definitely move forward. I try to find more parts on the pasture to perhaps be able to arrange it. The Lord Blee could indeed be questioned. According to one witness. Came the machine alone with smoky engine very low directional staging towards aspe. Until the machine hit. The pilot should not have gone out. After that the machine went up in flames. The pilot is supposed to have thrown his papers into the burning plane. I myself thought only that it is perhaps an enlightenment. Maybe this crash can only be clarified with a part number. Does anyone have the further information about the other pilot Lawson?
best regards
Marcel

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Good Morning Marcel !

About F/L J. L. Lawson's (No. 222 Sq.) crash-landing.

According "RAF Fighter Command Losses - Volume 3", this a/c'(TEMPEST V s/n SN205) engine failed North of Stade and crash-landed. Another source reports the incident as "6 miles North of Stade..." A German doctor brought the pilot to allied territory.

Best wishes !

Horst Weber

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello,
From FCL vol 3 it would 99.99% look to be SN205.
On the same day Spitfire IX - MJ854 and also according to FCL vol3 was returned via a doctor near Schwerin.
Also an American Mosquito KB185 on April 2nd.
Alex

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Form 540 1st of May 1945 - 222 Squadron

F/Lt R P Dahwood led a section of four on a weather recce but the weather prevented further operation. The section got 1 MT destroyed and 1 damaged SE of Flensburg where cloud was 4/10 and then returned to base. F/Lt J L Lawson made a forved landing a few miles west of Stade due to engine failure on the way back. Unfortunately he was two miles over the bombline but we sincerely hope he will have little difficulty in getting back without delay, His oil pressure went off the clock N of Rencsburg and he kept going tuntil the engine oversped, a few seconds later stopping completely. The countryside was flat and clear and he made an excellent belly landing.

Tempest V EJ889 F/Lt R P Dashwood 0925 1115
Tempest V NV760 F/Sgt F S Salter
Tempest V NV674 F/Lt V W Berg
Tempest V SN205 J L Lawson

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello, many thanks for all the infos. Think it is the Blee machine.

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Tempest V SN176 F/Lt C J McDonald 16.30 - 18.43
Tempest V JN802 W/O J R Duncan 16.30 - 18.43
Tempest V N753 W/O C Maddaford 16.30 - 18.43
Tempest V EJ697 /O T M Austin 16.30 - 18.43
Tempest V EJ697 P/O C E Blee 16.30 -
Armed Recce Kiel area. Loco + 50 Otrgs, north-west. 05345 strafed. 2 Ju 88's flying north-east of Jagel at deck level sighted and attacked. Both destroyed, one by F/Lt McDonald and one by W/O Duncan. P/O Blee was hit by flak and crashed at 80555, very heavily, and not seen to leave machine, although orbitted for about ten minutes.
Claim: 2-0-0; Locos 0-1; Ammo expended 245 x 20 mm.

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Thank you for the infomationen. Really impress what you have so sources and you have really helped me. Does anyone know by chance whether there are still pictures of the pilot Blee or whether someone has one? My 2 question would be whether someone could break this coordinate can be in the previous post in it was? The 80555th The great is that you have helped me really this crash its history to give again.

Thanks and best regards

Marcel

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

@Delmenhorst & Staind

The coordinate 80555 is very unusual for the allied Nord de Guerre grid system. Or did the RAF Fighter Command use another system in this late stage of the war ?. Does anyone has an idea ?.

Good luck !

Horst Weber

Re: Hunter crash by stade Aspe germany 1945
 

Hello ,
Has not a picture of the pilot Blee?
best regards
Marcel