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chuckschmitz 7th March 2017 18:27

Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Just saw this. https://www.thelocal.de/20170307/dan...raft-and-pilot

VtwinVince 7th March 2017 18:38

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Wow, that was quite the school project. I suppose the pilot has been ID'd?

Delmenhorst 7th March 2017 22:20

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
We have a fair idea

Mr Schmitt 8th March 2017 12:50

Me109 found in field with Pilot
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39196106

Any feedback on this story would be very interesting. Maybe someone on this forum may know more.
From what I can see in the pictures it looks to be a Late mark/model me109?

Apologies for duplicate post.

knd Regards

Sergio Luis dos Santos 8th March 2017 15:17

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Wow, maybe a new researcher/writer on way!

Reiner 8th March 2017 20:08

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delmenhorst (Post 230462)
We have a fair idea

Hi

A pilot from JG102?

Rene

paulmcmillan 8th March 2017 20:40

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
It has been suggested it MAYbe this one

http://www.flensted.eu.com/g1944142.shtml

ju55dk 8th March 2017 22:48

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
If the pictures really show a late Bf 109, it can not be Krüger. He was flying a G-6, produced june-august 1943.

Sadly all papers found were handed over to some museum people, who has no idea what so ever what they are dealing with;-(

Junker

Mikael Olrog 8th March 2017 23:06

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Jörn, take the care and go there to help them! :-)

ju55dk 8th March 2017 23:18

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Soren Flensted has tried to help them;-). So I leave it at that.

Junker

Mikael Olrog 8th March 2017 23:32

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Good. Hopefully the boy gets bitten by the aviation-bug... lol He got a good start at least

edNorth 8th March 2017 23:32

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
An researcher ... armed with full set of Bf 109 manuals, part lists and "hands on" knowledge of what to look out for ??

Another not far back discovery in same country comes to mind.
When are people learning.

Rasmussen 9th March 2017 00:03

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Hilmar, an engine specialist from flugzeugforum.de, said this are remains from a DB 605A ... his guess is an G-6/G-14. So Krüger could be an possibility.

Nogo99 9th March 2017 01:00

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Hey.

They have just said it's not Bruno Krüger but they will not say name of ID-papers yet....... My guess is one of these three:

Bf109 G-6 (RX+JF) vkr.412118..... 30 Aug 1944 Pilot Gunter Kreiger
Bf109 G-6 (NI+XZ) vkr.165196 eller 165096..... 10 Okt 1944 Pilot Hans Wunderlich
Bf109 G-6 (RX+DQ eller 152) vkr.411920.............. 16 Nov 1944 Pilot Franz Kowalski

or perhaps a completely unknown ;-)

chuckschmitz 15th March 2017 20:47

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Any updates?

Chuck

S Sheflin 15th March 2017 23:28

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Hello,

Any record of the DB 605 Motornummer yet?

Steve Sheflin

RolandF 24th March 2017 18:42

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
It was Hans Wunderlich, born July 22nd 1925 at Neusorg/Oberpfalz.

Regards
RolandF

chuckschmitz 25th March 2017 02:16

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
https://www.thelocal.de/20170324/pil...aft-identified

Kutscha 25th March 2017 15:04

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckschmitz (Post 231320)

The article shows a Merlin powered 109.:o

harrison987 25th March 2017 16:11

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Sad that he had no surviving relatives... :(

Mr Schmitt 27th March 2017 19:32

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
I agree with Harrison987

Very Sad and so young.

Rabe Anton 27th March 2017 20:23

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Can the correct Werknunner and SKZ for Hans Wünderlich's aircraft be verified or confirmed? Also, is his unit or that of the aircraft known?

RA

Delmenhorst 27th March 2017 21:40

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Werk Nr. 165096 NI+XZ 1./JG 102

Tomislav Haramincic 27th March 2017 22:47

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
According to my database entries, NI+XZ was WNr.165196.
WNr.165096 should be NR+ED (but not confirmed).

Delmenhorst 27th March 2017 23:26

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Could be a typing error from my side years ago

RolandF 28th March 2017 11:03

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
I have WNr 165196 as lost June 20th 1944 at Clastres with Uffz Jürgen Zarte from 9./JG 1 at the controls?

Regards
RolandF

ju55dk 28th March 2017 14:37

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
WASt Verlustmeldung states: Wnr 165096 Skz NI+XZ.

Junker

Rabe Anton 28th March 2017 19:28

Re: Remains of Bf 109 and Pilot found in Denmark
 
Well, fellows, it looks like we've got another case of a typographical error with Hans Wünderlich's Bf 109.

If the Werknummer was 165 096, the SKZ would have been N R + E D as has been said. For me this SKZ looks 95 per. sure match for 165 096.

BUT—if the SKZ were N I + X Z as Jòrn has said based on the NVLM, then 165 196 is the Werknummer. I would like other opinions, but for me, a mistake in the number seems more likely than a mistake in the SKZ.

So, it seems to me that we should have 165 196 N I + X Z as the most probable candidate for the kite in question.

RA


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