My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi,
With all the Wilde Sau expertice we have on this forum, I am mildly surprised that we have been unable to pin-point the location of the GefStd of 30 JD in Berlin. Can anyone possibly help.
bregds
SES
www.gyges.dk

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi,
I am slightly surprised. If I were to ask the W.Nr of a specific Fw 190 from 1/JG 300 on 2 JAN 1944 I would probably get a correct response in 24 hours. After 143 views there is not a single response to this question. Is it really true that the authors, which have written so many excellent books on the Wilde Sau and have interviewed former aircrew, never came across the name/radio callsign or a reference to the Jagddivision that commanded them?
bregds
SES
www.gyges.dk

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Does not Hajo Hermann mentions the location in his book (I thisnk it was named Eagles Wings...do not have it by my side roght now so no help:( )
just a hint...;)

Peter

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi,
He possibly does. I do not have the book - anybody?
And thank you very much for the tip.
bregds
SES

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

HI

I checked the book of H. Hermann in original called Bewegtes leben, 1993 Uni. Verl. Muenchen and found out that he mentions only once location of 30.JD after it has been established as somewhere in Berlinclose to Olympische stadion. Later he mentions that in March 1944 HQ of 30.JD moved from Elsgrund....maybe it is part of Berlin he did not mention in precious snetence, or it wa sthe second ? subsequent location of 30.JD HQ.
maybe this helps...

Peter

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi Peter,
It helps a lot indeed. If the first location is right it could indicared a co-location with Lw.Bef. Mitte, please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/Gefechtsstand%20...te%20reich.htm
In the spring of 1944 Lw.Bef Mitte had been renamed Lft.Reich and they moved their Gef.Std. It would be logical for 30 JD to do the same, and locate in a seperate facility.
And as you can see here.
http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=...3%B8gning&meta=
Elsgrund was a know Lw facility, I think we are on to something, thank you very much.
bregds
SES

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi,
The GefStd of 30 JD could actually have been the NE bunker on the grounds of the Olympic Stadium.
bregds
SES

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

I am glad that info was of some help:) If Hajo was right...
good hunt for something...;)

Peter

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi,
It could well be. A friend of mine goes there this month, and will have access to the NE bunker.
bregds
SES

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi,
It has now been a year (again) I we have still not found the name of the GefStd of 30 JD. BTW 30 JD was disbanded in March 1944 so it does not sound logical that they should re-located that very month.
bregds
SES

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

And yet another year has passed.
Can anyone possibly give us the location of the GefStd of 30 JD and it's name please.
bregds
SES

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

I have nothing special on this but....

according to the Michael Holm website, 30.J.Div. headquarters was located in Berlin (from 09.43 to 03.44).

Does this help?

Re: My anual cry in the wilderness (30 JD).
 

Hi Doug,
Thanks a lot, but if you read the posts above you will see that the location has been narrowed down to Berlin a while back.
My ambition is to pin-poiny the place with this level of accuracy:
http://www.gyges.dk/Gefechtsstand%20bunker1%20JD.htm
bregds
SES