Tomas Polak's STALIN'S FALCONS
 

Good morning Gentlemen,

I nearly finished working through Tomas Polak’s STALIN’S FALCONS.
It was very enjoyable to read so many biographies one after the other.
Many unclear issue could be made clear with Mr Abramov’s website.
Some questions remain:
1. Dmitrii Chvatov (7 kills), was he really the first Soviet WW2 ace ?
2. Ivan Gaydayenko (29 kills), how many in MiG-3/P-40 ?
3. Petr Kozachenko (11 kills in China, 4 in Finland, 12+8sh in WW2), how many in I-153/LaGG-3 ?
4. Dmitrii Kudymov (at least 12+29sh kills), how many in I-16 ?, decimals of the shares ?
5. Juan Lario (Spanish, 34+8sh kills), which planes did he fly in WW2 ? how many kills in Spitfires ?
6. Vladimir Matveyev (13 kills), how many in I-16 ?
7. Alexandr Yevdokimovich Novikov (15 killls), how many in I-16 ?
8. Alexei Pashkevich (16 kills), pilots of his regiment scored the first MiG-15 kill, was it a MiG-15bis ?
9. Nikolai Sdobnov (5 kills), pilot of 48. BBAP, which plane did he fly ?
10. Viktor Sklyarov (7+9sh kills in I-16), decimals of the shares ?
11. Stepan Pavlovich Suprun (45 kills, at least 11 in MiG-3), definite score ?
12. Viktor Talalikhin (11 kills), how many in I-16 ?
13. Ivan Tarasov (19 kills), how many in La-7 ?
14. Sergei Tarkhov (5 kills), which plane did he fly ?
15. Dmitrii Titarenko (23 kills), how many in MiG-3/La-7 ?
16. Ivan Tushev (15+1sh kills), how many in P-40 ?
17. Ivan Yevsevyev (4+12sh kills), decimals of the shares ?
18. Vasilii Alexandrovich Zaitsev (36+19sh kills ), how many in MiG-3/LaGG-3/La-5 ?

Cheers,

Michael

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it's plane - SB (crew Sdobnov-Chugunov-Rybak)
http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=211

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Good evening Kirill,

cool !
SB ? Do you mean a Tupolew SB-2 ?

Michael

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Good evening Michael,
SB - this is SB.
SB-2 was invented by Western "researchers".
I do not know the modification, but most likely the SB with 2*M-103A is late.
Best regards,
Kirill

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Hello Kirill,

alright, so I'll note down the plane type as Tupolev SB.
Can you tell me the given names of Mr. Chugunov and Mr. Rybak ?

Cheers,

Michael

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Hello Michael,
Kapt. Chugunov Vasiliy Dmitrievich, 1908
http://www.proza.ru/2017/06/17/398

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Hello Michael,
The memoirs are very inaccurate. I found operational documents and in them the type of Sdobnov plane on 25.06.1941 - Pe-2.
"gunner-radio operator Rybak" I can not find - probably in memoirs inaccuracy.
As of 06.07.1941, the Pe-2 is also likely.
In the award document of Sdobnov for these two missions, his crew shot down not 5 planes (as write in memoirs), but three were shot down and one damaged.
In the award documents of Chugunov for the same period, 4 shot down together with the gunner-radio operator are indicated. Of these, two are personally a navigator.

best regards,
Kirill

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Hello Kirill,

a Pe-2 ? Oh no ! I was hoping for a Tupolev ace...
It is possible to find out which aircraft 48. BBAP was equipped with in June/July1941 ?

Cheers,

Michael

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Approximately so, but there may be inaccuracies (repairs, return from forced, breakdowns):
on 22.06.1941 - 48 SBAP - 39 Pe-2; 224 SBAP - 13 SB; 225 SBAP - 21 SB.
on 03.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - 4 (?) Pe-2 & 1 USB; 224 SBAP - 7 SB & 2 I-15bis; 225 SBAP - 9 SB.
on 07.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - 6 Pe-2; 224 & 225 SBAP - 6 SB.
on 13.07.1941 - 48 SBAP + 224 & 225 SBAP = ? Pe-2 + ? SB
on 23-24.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - ~3 Pe-2 & 2-3 SB
on 28-31.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - ~1-2 Pe-2 & ~1-2 SB

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Good evening Kirill,

that looks very much like a Pe-2 ace.
Thanks for checking.
Are there any notable Tupolev pilots known to you ?

Have a nice Tuesday,

Michael

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Good evening Gentlemen,

when I emigrated to Switzerland I left my STALIN'S FALCON in Germany. If memory serves me right Nikolai Vasilchenko scored 4 kills in 1920 which would make him the top-scorer of that comparatively peaceful decade. Could anybody please have a look if that's true ?

Cheers,

Michael

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Good evening kirche,

I know this veritable website and started to learn Russian to gain info from it.
So far, I have not been able to decipher if the Vasilchenko page provides the dates of his 4 kills. I also would be very interested in the plane type he flew when scoring.

Have a nice Wednesday,

Michael

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Hello, Michael
August 12, 1920. The "Wrangel" Front. 2nd Aviation Division.
Near the village of Malaya Kakhovka (near the city of Borislavl) - pontoon crossing over the Dnieper River. Attack by 7 enemy aircraft of the DH-9 type.
About here 46.779929840854706, 33.372316756225246
About Vasilchenko's plane: "a small "Nieuport" took off from behind a cloud".
According to the description of the battle, two DH-9 aircraft were shot down - one fell in the Bolshaya Kakhovka area, and the second fell "behind the front line" (apparently behind the Dnieper River).
According to some sources, during the entire period of the Civil War, N.N. Vasilchenko won 4 aerial victories (apparently including these two).

Best regards,
Kirill

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Good morning Kirill,

thanks for the translation.
I will ask my next visitor from Germany to bring along some of my airwar books to Switzerland incl STALIN'S FALCONS.
Furthermore, I will write a message to Mr. Kulikov who might know more about the issue.

Have a good Thursday,

Michael

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Page 325 in STALIN'S FALCONS:

Vasilchenko, Nikolai N. - One of the first successful fighter pilots of the Red Air Force, N. S. flew in the 6th Istrebitelnyi Aviatryad, claiming at least four victories against White forces during 1920.
Known claims
1920
12 August.....2.....De Havilland DH 9s......near River Dnieper.....6th IAO
14 October....2.....E/a

Cheers
Hans K

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Dear Hans,

thanks for your post.
Vasilchenko really seems to be the top fighter pilot of the 20s.
I wrote a message to Viktor Kulikov and asked him which Nieuport type he flew.

All the best to you, sincerely,

Michael

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"В 1920 году газета "Известия" сообщала, что 14 Октября в 15 часов 10 минут во время разведки аэродрома противника красный военный лётчик Н. Н. Васильченко обстрелял на стоянке 2 самолёта, после чего стал делать различные фигуры, чтобы вызвать неприятельских лётчиков на бой. Через 10 минут самолёты противника поднялись. Один стал набирать высоту, но затянул маневр, и Васильченко успел атаковать его напарника, обстрелял из пулемёта и заставил сесть. Первый же самолёт, после неудачно проведённой атаки, также попал под огонь красвоенлёта и вынужден был приземлиться."

The newspaper "Izvestia" wrote that on that day he called them into an air battle and then fired at them and forced them to land. But he didn't shoot them down.

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Good afternoon kirche,

that interesting.
Forced to land on White or Red territory ?

Have a good start into the weekend,

Michael

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Will the decimals of the 20 shared kills of Ivan Lakeev (p193) ever be known ?