German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

Hi everybody!
Who can help a friend of mine to find the rest of the crews to which the following persons belonged to (= reconstruct crew):
Hückelmann Adolf , StabsFeldw., ° April 30,1909; 67474-09 8 KG54
He-111P.
Hückelmann Adolf, ..., °...?, 3 KG54 He-111P B3 + ?.
Hinze Alfred,Feldw.,WoP, °Dec.12,1913 Schnatow; 65116-22 7/KG53
He-111H A1
Leonhardt Emil, U/off, °June 26,1912,Emmendingen;62691-? 3KG27 He-111P 1G+ ?L.
Kisker Manfred,U/Off Obs.,° May 10,1917 Bremen; 62674-51 8/K He-111P 1G + L.
Flehmer Gerhard,O/Gefr.Funk.,°March 1, 1919,Oberhof-Randow;67474-36 8/Stab JG54 He-111P B3 + ?5.
Frank, Lt.Flg,°...., ...He-111.
Dörwald Otto-Friedrich, Lt,...,...;I/LG1 He-111H.
Hoover H,...,...,; 2KG27 He-111; crashed bij Courtrai (Kortrijk),Belgium.
Hartmann Werner, Fldwl-Pilot, °...,...; 3LG1 He-111.
Vogel Alfred, U/Off.-Pilot, °....,...; 3KG54 He-111.
Thanks for your kind cooperation !
Fredcompa

Re: German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

I can help for one of them : Kisker Manfred

Uffz Manfred Kisker was the radio aboard a He 111 of 3./KG 27 that was shot down during a confuse morning battle between I./ and III./KG 27 vs GC III/1 and 85 Sqn. He was killed in the air during the attack, the bomber belly-landed near Mons, Belgium. It is not possible to know who shot down it exactly.
The three other crew were captured: Uffz Otto Wehmeier (pilot, unhurt), Uffz Arthur Voigt (observer, wounded) and Uffz Otto Miklitz (flying engineer, wounded, lost a leg).

Re: German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

I can assist you on a few (see items in RED).


1. Hückelmann Adolf , StabsFeldw., ° April 30,1909; 67474-09 8 KG54
He-111P. Huckelmann and his crew were shot down on 10.05.40 near Courtrai due to enemy fighters. The crew was as follows:
FF Hptmn Fritz Stadelmeyer - wounded (also Staffelkapitan)
BO Oblt. Felix Kriegskotte - taken prisoner
BF Stfw. Adolf Huckelmann - killed
BM Fw. Oskar Wolf - wounded
Hückelmann Adolf, ..., °...?, 3 KG54 He-111P B3 + ?. B3+?S
2. Hinze Alfred,Feldw.,WoP, °Dec.12,1913 Schnatow; 65116-22 7/KG53
He-111H A1
3. Leonhardt Emil, U/off, °June 26,1912,Emmendingen;62691-? 3KG27 He-111P 1G+ ?L.
4. Kisker Manfred,U/Off Obs.,° May 10,1917 Bremen; 62674-51 8/K He-111P 1G + L.
5. Flehmer Gerhard,O/Gefr.Funk.,°March 1, 1919,Oberhof-Randow;67474-36 8/Stab JG54 He-111P B3 + ?5.
6. Frank, Lt.Flg,°...., ...He-111.
7. Dörwald Otto-Friedrich, Lt,...,...;I/LG1 He-111H.
Dorwald and crew shot down on 10.05.40 while flying a recon mission, lost to fighters near Meux. Crew consisted of the following;
FF Lt. Otto Dorwald - prisoner
BO Gefr. Werner Hinrichs - prisoner
BM Uffz. Alfred Muller - killed
BS Ofw. Paul Fehlinger - killed
L1+AB
8. Hoover H,...,...,; 2KG27 He-111; crashed bij Courtrai (Kortrijk),Belgium.
9. Hartmann Werner, Fldwl-Pilot, °...,...; 3LG1 He-111.
Hartmann and crew shot down on 10.05.40 due to enemy fighters near Lille. Crew was as follows;
FF Fw. Werner Hartmann - prisoner
BO Fw. Wilhelm Franz - prisoner
BF Gefr. Max Buhler - prisoner
BS Uffz. Hans Saas - killed
L1+EL

10. Vogel Alfred, U/Off.-Pilot, °....,...; 3KG54 He-111.
Vogel and crew shot down by enemy fighters near Courtrai on 10.05.40.Crew was as follows;
FF Uffz. Alfred Vogel - taken prisoner
BO Uffz. Paul Hentschel - wounded
BF Uffz. Willi Pomorin - taken prisoner
BM Ogefr. Emil Luis - killed
B3+?S

Re: German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

Continuing from the previous post, I have the following additions, mostly from "Mei 1940 boven Belgie", "12 days in May" and "Bataille Aerienne and Rupture sur la Meuse":

1. Hückelmann Adolf , StabsFeldw., ° April 30,1909; 67474-09 8 KG54
He-111P. Huckelmann and his crew were shot down on 10.05.40 near Courtrai due to enemy fighters. The crew was as follows:
FF Hptmn Fritz Stadelmeyer - wounded (also Staffelkapitan)
BO Oblt. Felix Kriegskotte - taken prisoner
BF Stfw. Adolf Huckelmann - killed
BM Fw. Oskar Wolf - wounded
Hückelmann Adolf, ..., °...?, 3 KG54 He-111P B3 + ?. B3+?S
2. Hinze Alfred,Feldw.,WoP, °Dec.12,1913 Schnatow; 65116-22 7/KG53
He-111H A1
3. Leonhardt Emil, U/off, °June 26,1912,Emmendingen;62691-? 3KG27 He-111P 1G+ ?L.
3 members of this crew are burried in Antoing:
Uffz(?) Schoenherr, Uffz Werner Stramm, Uffz Emil Leonhardt.

4. Kisker Manfred,U/Off Obs.,° May 10,1917 Bremen; 62674-51 8/K He-111P 1G + L.
He-111 1G+DL of 3/KG27 was shot down at Ingelmunster by Moranes of GC II/3. 3 crew members PoW:
Uffz Otto Wehmeyer (pilot),
Uffz Arthur Vougt (navigator),
Uffz Otto Mihita (engineer)
The gunner Kisker (in some sources Wiskes) jumped by parachute. Apparently killed.
5. Flehmer Gerhard,O/Gefr.Funk.,°March 1, 1919,Oberhof-Randow;67474-36 8/Stab JG54 He-111P B3 + ?5.
One of the 6 He-111s of 8/KG54 shot down around 18.30 by Hurricanes of 85 and 87 Sqn, and Moranes of GC II/1. This crew:
Oblt Volprecht Riedesel, Freiherr zu Eisenbach (pilot, PoW),
Ogfr Gerhard Flehmer (Wop, already killed in flight)
Fw Werner Joest (Obs, PoW)
Uffz Eduard Kreiss (BM, PoW). (
6. Frank, Lt.Flg,°...., ...He-111.
Not exactly the same name, but I have a He-111 of 7/KG53 that crashed around 06.00 in Ell, Luxembourg, after being hit by Hawks of GC I/4 after an attack on the Reims area. Crew:
Lt Franke (pilot, PoW),
Fl Stab-Ing Emil Issel (obs, jumped over France and was killed)
Uffz Willy Wolf (BM, jumped over France, PoW)
Uffz Engelmann (bomber, PoW)
and an unknown gunner. I would not be surprised if Hinze under 2. above was this gunner.
7. Dörwald Otto-Friedrich, Lt,...,...;I/LG1 He-111H.
Dorwald and crew shot down on 10.05.40 while flying a recon mission, lost to fighters near Meux. Crew consisted of the following;
FF Lt. Otto Dorwald - prisoner
BO Gefr. Werner Hinrichs - prisoner
BM Uffz. Alfred Muller - killed
BS Ofw. Paul Fehlinger - killed
L1+AB
8. Hoover H,...,...,; 2KG27 He-111; crashed bij Courtrai (Kortrijk),Belgium.
Lt Hans-Wilhelm Hover of Stab II/KG27 and 3 others of his crew PoW.
9. Hartmann Werner, Fldwl-Pilot, °...,...; 3LG1 He-111.
Hartmann and crew shot down on 10.05.40 due to enemy fighters near Lille. Crew was as follows;
FF Fw. Werner Hartmann - prisoner
BO Fw. Wilhelm Franz - prisoner
BF Gefr. Max Buhler - prisoner
BS Uffz. Hans Saas - killed
L1+EL

10. Vogel Alfred, U/Off.-Pilot, °....,...; 3KG54 He-111.
Vogel and crew shot down by enemy fighters near Courtrai on 10.05.40.Crew was as follows;
FF Uffz. Alfred Vogel - taken prisoner
BO Uffz. Paul Hentschel - wounded
BF Uffz. Willi Pomorin - taken prisoner
BM Ogefr. Emil Luis - killed
B3+?S
This machine of 8./KG54 crash landed near Sluis, just across the belgian-dutch border.

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:) Dear members!
I have to thank you sincerely for your quick answers in name of my friend!
He was realy astonished to have such a quick reply with such a lot of info. Thanks again.
Now he asked me again for your help.Since years he's searching for the following case:
Again on May 10,1940, there was (probably a collision) a crash between 2 JU87 from the 9/StG2 in KAPELLEN op de Bos (Belgium).
1st Stuka:
1) U/Off.-pilot: BRÜCKNER Ernst, ° June 8,1919 and + May 10,1940.
Originally burried in Brussels,but re-burried on April,12,1949 in Lommel (Belgium),graven°: BL45GR139.
2) ???????
Question: who was the second person in this plane? He was probably arrested by the Belgian Gendarmerie. Was he a POW afterwards?
2nd Stuka:
1) Feldw.-pilot NITSCHKE Alfred, °Dec.25,1914 and + May 10,1940.
Or.burried in Brussels and afterwards re-burried in Lommel (B) on April 12, 1949.GraveN°: BL45GR141.
2) U/Off.-pilot GILON Udo, ° August 7,1913 and + May 10,1940.
Burried in Brussels and re-burried in Lommel (B),..., Graven°:BL45GR140.
If we can help you with something,pls let us now !
Many regards,
fredcompa (for Frans)

Re: German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

Hi Fred,

On this inicdent I have not more details than you have. It happened during the massive attack on Antwerpen around 20.30 hours in the evening. The two machines had a mid-air collision and both crashed indeed in Kapellen-op-den-Bos. There are pictures of at least one crashed Stuka.

But responding to your offer; yes I have a few open ends myself.
Can you give details on the following crashes on May 10 1940 in Belgium (unit and crew)?
- a He-111 in Hechtel
- a Do-17Z (of 5./KG77?) in Alken
- a Do-17 around Genk

Thanks, Pieter

Re: German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

Hello Pieter!
Thanks in the name of Frans!
Here is some info for you, it's not complete, he's still trying to find more, at home, in the KLM and in the CDH in Evere.

Do-17 around Genk: shot down by the Belgian anti-aircraft.

Do-17Z (or 5./KG77?) in Alken: no more info found in the pc from the KLM (Roayal Army Museum)

He-111 in Hechtel from 1LG1 is probably shot down in a airfight at Klein Aistedden near LOMMEL.

He's looking even in the files of the Maires of these cities.
PS: als u nederlands spreekt, geef een seintje, dan bezorg ik u het rechtstreeks mailadres van Frans,dat schaklet mij dan er tussen uit ...
Groetjes,
Fred

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Hi !

On May 11 a German aircraft was shot down in a field near the center of the town of Alken by small arms of the Belgian Army. There were two crew members (maybe at 07.30 h a Ju 87 of the 2./StG 2 ?).

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Hey fellows,got a new demand for my friend:
Funke Heinrich, Funker, °March 10,1917 Suttrop Warstein,.....
Broer Richard,U/off.,°Dec.07,1919,Halle,Saale; 53577-4 Stab I/JG1
Thiessen Hans Hermann,O/FHE, ?, °,,...1LG He-111H;
Oehler Heinz,Bortschutze,,°?..,... 6LG Ju88A;
Schade Ernst, ? , °?., Ju 88;
Maibom Heinrich,? ,° ? , ... Ju 88;
Pollmann Walter, Gefr., °Oct.16,1916 Aselissen, 53002-61 4KG6;
Renzelberg Karl, O/Gefr.,° Feb.28,1918 Nurenberg,; 1ZG26-2F.B.R.;
Schmelz Heinrich Heinz, Feldw., °Dec.23,1916 Bochum; 62694-?;
Klöttschen ,? , ° ? , ; 7KG2 Do17;
Bott Helmut, O/Lt, °May 19,1914; 71039-?, 5KG77, Do 17Z3Z+;
Spohr Herman, O/Gefr., °Sept.24,1911 Mettmann; 71039-23, 5KG77, Do17Z3Z+;
Büchner Heinz,Feldw.,°Jan.1,1914; 51916-17, 4KG3 Do17Z; May 11,1940.
Fröhlich Johann,Feldw.,°Apr.3,1914 Chemnitz; 59916-18, 4KG3, Do17Z ,May 11,1940.
Fürstenberg Kurt,U/Off., ° ? ,; 59916-?, 1LG, He-111H L1 + XC;
Muschner Hergard,U/Off.,°Jan.18,1912 Landshut,;2-58255-24 Stuka,; Eben-Emael Apr.11,1940.
Kulik Franz,U/Off.,°Dec.19,1920 Beuthen/Mechtal; 55548-12, 1(H)/41;Eben-Emael May 11,1940.
Bohn Emil,?, °? , He-111; Lier, May 11,1940.
Subborg Wilhelm, ?, ° ? ,; He-111; Lier May 11,1940.
Thanks in advace for your help !
Fred

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Many thanks Montana !!!
Fred

Re: German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

Hallo Fred,

Uit één van je antwoorden heb ik begrepen dat je nederlandstalig bent.
Vandaar dat ik dan ook antwoord in mijn moedertaal.
Ik ben in mijn boeken gedoken en heb toch het één en ander kunnen opsnorren. Hopelijk kan je er iets mee aanvangen!
Groetjes vanuit (een nog steeds te nat) België,

Dirk

Re: German losses May 10,1940 Belgium
 

Hi !

Concerning the He 111 P of Uffz. Emil Bohn (Stabstaffel/KG 54), this aircraft crashed at Zandhoven ("Begijnbos") at 17.30 h. The pilot, Uffz. Emil Bohn was interrogated by Sgt milicien Emil Buyse at Lier for the Belgian Army. He said he was from Stuttgart, married, 25 year old and he took off from Hoya at 16.00 h for recco mission.

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Fred,

It is all becoming a bit more speculative, but herewith some additions to the input of Dirk.

Regards,

Pieter