Island Saga ???
 

What could we think about that :

http://www.familie-luyken.de/07Genea...1Gen/11054.htm

Rémi

Re: Island Saga ???
 

That is a pretty incredible story, one to tell the grandchildren.

Re: Island Saga ???
 

Fiction in my opinion

Re: Island Saga ???
 

https://www.livescience.com/56764-se...iscovered.html




Ed

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From de Zeng and Sankey - Luftwaffe Careers

HOLLE, Alexander. (DOB: 27.02.98 in Bielefeld). (i.G.). (R, DKG). 16.11.15 joined the army as an officer candidate. WWI served with the infantry, finishing as a balloon observer and Lt. 29.01.17
promo to Lt. 10.19 entered the Reichswehr. 01.10.20 trf to Inf.Rgt. 16. 08.24 detached for flight training as a pilot with Focke-Wulf Bremen and with "Sportflug GmbH" (to 05.27). 01.04.25 promo
to Oblt. 01.04.28 Oblt., Inf.Rgt. 16, received secret flight training in Lipezk/Soviet Union with Flugzentrum Lipetsk (to 30.10.29). 01.11.30 on the Geheime Fliegerliste. 01.06.31 attended Luftkriegschule. 01.10.31 Generalstab training, including the Heereskriegsakademie Berlin (to
31.03.34). 1931-33 attended a series of short courses with DVS Schleissheim. 01.02.33 promo to Hptm. 01.10.33 attended the Kriegsakademie Berlin. 01.04.34 trf to the Luftwaffe from the Heer with a rank of Hptm. and appt Ia in Stab/1. Fl.-Div. 01.04.35 appt Referent beim Inspekteur der Kampfflieger/RLM. 01.07.35 promo to Maj. and appt Kdr. I./St.G. 163 and concurrently Kdt. Fl.H. Breslau. 11.36 appt Chef des Stabes of the Condor Legion (to early 1937). 01.04.37 appt Kdr. III./St.G. 162. 01.10.37 promo to Obstlt. and appt Kdr. I./St.G. 163. 04.02.38 Obstlt., appt Chef
d.Stabes/Lw.Kdo. Ostpreussen (to 30.09.39). 01.10.38 received RDA 01.08.37. 11.10.39 appt Ch.d.Stabes/IV. Fliegerkorps (to 12.40). 01.02.40 promo to Oberst (RDA 01.08.39). 15.10.40 appt Kommodore KG 26 und concurrently Fliegerführer Nordost (to c. 12.03.41). c.12.03.41 appt
Fliegerführer Nord (Norway) (to c.01.11.41). 01.11.41 appt Fliegerführer Nord (Ost) (to 07.06.43).
11.05.42 awarded DKG, Fliegerführer Nord (Ost). 23.12.42 awarded Ritterkreuz, Fliegerführer Nord.
01.01.43 appt (acting?) Komm.Gen. X. Fliegerkorps (to 22.05.43). 01.02.43 Gen.Maj., concurrently appt (acting?) Befh.d.dt.Lw. in Südgriechenland (to 30.10.43?). 07.06.43 trf to Lw.-Kdo. Südost for further assignment. 15.06.43 (concurrently?) appt Kdr. Luftwaffenstab (Luftgaustab) Griechenland
(to 02.44). 15.10.43 re-appt Komm.Gen. X. Fliegerkorps (to 01.09.44). 01.05.44 promo to Gen.Lt. 25.08.44 Gen.Lt., appt temporary Oberbefehlshaber Luftflotte 4 (to 26.09.44). 22.09.44 Gen.Lt., appt provisional Oberbefehlshaber Luftflotte 3 (to 26.09.44). 28.09.44 Gen.Lt., appt provisional Oberbefehlshaber Lw.Kdo. West (to 15.11.44). 15.12.44 appt Kommandierender Gen. des IV. Fl.Korps. 23.12.44 Gen.Lt., appt Kommandierender General der Deutschen Luftwaffe in Dänemark
(to 08.05.45). 09.05.45 captured at Skanderborg/Denmark and became POW, and then later interned. 08.02.48 released.

†16.07.78 in München.

Quite a career. But no mention of the Island "saga".

Re: Island Saga ???
 

I simply am getting tired of this ... bullshit. It does not become truth by writing an fictitious article in a local newspaper, repeat on internet or Wiki.

Yes, I know the origin of this story, once researched by several researchers but then dismissed (no evidence found, circumstantial as some would say)

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ght=Gudbrandur

With full respect, I suggest thread be locked.
Eggert

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The spreading of fake news is not merely the domain of the White House...

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Will not comment anymore again here if this is allowed. Please.

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If what is allowed?

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Promoting fake stories.

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I checked the maritime details of the story and while some minor details are correct, the most important parts of the stories can't be confirmed from primary sources. No such incident is mentioned in the war diary of U-98, that allegedly took the airmen to France after meeting the Icelandic freighter EDDA on 11 April 1941 - or in those of any other U-boat that operated in the North Atlantic during that time. Also "Schiff 28" was the designation for the former Polish freighter BIELSKO which became the raider MICHEL.

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Happily, that isn't what happened. RT was asking for views on the credibility of this story.

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Do not see any Happily about this abuse of history or historical researchers time.

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Asking one simple question is not "abuse" in my view and Rainer's reply to that made some very interesting points.

Re: Island Saga ???
 

I have had enough.