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knusel 8th February 2018 13:16

OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Good afternoon,

who was responsible for changing the layout of the OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES series ?
I think that step was unnecessary and wrong because the old layout was beautiful whereas the new layout is ugly.


Michael

Nick Beale 8th February 2018 13:45

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Why not contact Osprey via their own forum and ask them?

Jukka Juutinen 9th February 2018 05:49

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Nick, only paying members can post there.

Nick Beale 9th February 2018 08:24

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
It seems as if the original poster is already a good customer, so there may not be too great a sacrifice involved.

Paul Frawley 9th February 2018 10:00

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Good on you Nick. Great forum but sick of these ranting trolls. On to more worthwhile discussion - any book projects underway?

knusel 9th February 2018 10:51

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jukka Juutinen (Post 247265)
Nick, only paying members can post there.

Good morning,

yes, you have to be Gold, Silver or Bronze Member to post there.
Theaerodrome.com and 12oclockhigh.net are enough forums for me at the moment.
However, one of the Osprey forum guys has started a thread about the layout issue already.

Have a nice Friday,

Michael

SteveB 9th February 2018 14:39

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Osprey are not independent anymore they were bought out in last year or so by an American company Bloomsbury (?) that might have something to do with it.

Steve

knusel 9th February 2018 20:19

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Good evening Steve,

interesting.
Have you heard that OSPREY has decided to discontinue the publication of WW1 volumes ?:(

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

Orwell1984 9th February 2018 21:13

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Bloomsbury is an English company
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsbury_Publishing

Bloomsbury acquired Osprey from the previous owners , a venture capital fund. So I’d consider this sale a good sign, as Osprey is now owned by a proper publisher again as opposed to a firm that has no real interest in publishing, just turning a quick and easy profit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osprey_Publishing
Contains a brief history of Osprey
So in spite of the doomsayers I’d say Osprey is going to be around and publishing for a while yet.
As to discontinuing WW1 publishing I don’t know where you would get that idea. There’s at least two Campaign titles on ww1 this year. Some combat titles a recent fortress title and some general history books. WWI will always be the poor cousin to WW2 when it comes to Osprey but at least it’s something. My main area of interest is the SCW and I’m not holding my breath for any new Osprey title there!

Juha 10th February 2018 08:43

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Hello Orwell
so no rumours on a forthcoming Osprey book on POUM militia?:) Would be interesting to compare Homage to Catalonia to a history book on the POUM militia.

Juha

Nick Beale 10th February 2018 09:38

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Frawley (Post 247273)
Good on you Nick. Great forum but sick of these ranting trolls. On to more worthwhile discussion - any book projects underway?

Paul, I’ve no problem with people not liking Osprey’s design, that’s valid consuner reaction. It’s the futility of raising it here that irks me when the obvious people to tell are Osprey themselves — I’m pretty sure they have email and, unlike us, they are in a position to do something about the issue.

Book projects? None, unless you count the translation work I’ve done for Theo Boiten and Rod McKenzie’s Nachtjagd War Diaries series. I don’t think the public is ready for my completely unillustrated blockbuster “Total Failure: Luftwaffe Airborne Jamming 1942–44”!

knusel 12th February 2018 13:58

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orwell1984 (Post 247317)
...My main area of interest is the SCW and I’m not holding my breath for any new Osprey title there!

Good afternoon Orwell,

I'm interested in the SCW, too.

Do you think we will ever know the final offical total of Lakeev or all decimals of the shared kills of Gritsewets ?

Cheers,

Michael

Laurent Rizzotti 14th February 2018 15:19

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 247350)
Book projects? None, unless you count the translation work I’ve done for Theo Boiten and Rod McKenzie’s Nachtjagd War Diaries series. I don’t think the public is ready for my completely unillustrated blockbuster “Total Failure: Luftwaffe Airborne Jamming 1942–44”!

Hey, I will buy it ! I am sure the world will survive if that book replace one of the hundred books produced each year in the world about more or less obscure SS units. At least it will tell something new.

knusel 16th February 2018 19:36

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orwell1984 (Post 247317)
... My main area of interest is the SCW and I’m not holding my breath for any new Osprey title there!

I hope that one day OSPREY will publish a Duel volume about Fiat CR32 vs Polikarpov I-15/I-16.

Michael

Orwell1984 16th February 2018 20:03

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 247748)
I hope that one day OSPREY will publish a Duel volume about Fiat CR32 vs Polikarpov I-15/I-16.

Michael

Agreed. I’d settle for a Bf109 vs I16 too. I’ve requested both of those a couple of times via their website request a title option.

knusel 16th February 2018 20:09

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Can you tell me if more I-15's or more I-16's served in the Spanish Civil War ?

Michael

knusel 17th February 2023 08:37

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Ivan Lakeev's Spanish Civil War score is sometimes indicated as 12+16sh.
https://warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=1172#not
The first 2+2sh kills are known.
http://www.soviet-aces-1936-53.ru/abc/l/lakeev.htm
That makes it quite likely, that he's the top scorer of the calendar year 1937, see also:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ear#post258379

edwest2 17th February 2023 18:00

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
I work in book publishing so a little perspective if I may. When the mail or telephone were the only way to reach us, we got requests for various books, meaning ideas for future titles.

These were compiled for future consideration. Sometimes, a few ideas were selected and the books were produced.

The internet has created two problems:

1) The utterly fake idea that being uncivil was OK.

2) One poster asking for something or even two, and us not following through and producing a book based on two suggestions meant we "weren't listening."

Since there are no, or few actual, real names being used, this creates a bad precedent. As a moderator on our message board, I see advertising links embedded in honest sounding questions. Such posts are immediately deleted.

A lack of a human voice or signed letter creates a situation where people are disconnected. I do not regard this as a good thing.

knusel 19th February 2023 17:46

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Had a look at the cover of OSPREY's "Bf 109 Jabo Units in the West" which will be published at the German amazon in May.
The artwork really looks awesome!

Nick Beale 20th February 2023 08:57

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 327074)
Had a look at the cover of OSPREY's "Bf 109 Jabo Units in the West" which will be published at the German amazon in May.
The artwork really looks awesome!

There’s a separate thread about this book.

Adriano Baumgartner 20th February 2023 19:41

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Had a look at the cover of OSPREY's "Bf 109 Jabo Units in the West" which will be published at the German amazon in May.
The artwork really looks awesome!


I do AGREE with you Knusel! But some members disagreed about it....

knusel 22nd February 2023 10:06

Re: OSPREY AIRCRAFT OF THE ACES layout: never change a winning team
 
Good morning Adriano,

I think that many of the painted cover artworks of the older OSPREY titles are really beautiful. But some of the computer generated cover artworks of the newer OSPREY titles look better than even a photo ever could look. The "Bf 109 Jabo Units in the West" artwork is one of them.

I wish you a pleasant Wednesday,

Michael


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