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Theo Boiten 25th February 2018 15:38

Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Dear all,

I have queries on three Nachtjagd losses sustained during the 8-9 October 1943 Hannover/Bremen raid:

-a Ju88 A-4 Beleuchter of III./KG3 was destroyed by ‘friendly’ flak and crashed at Heeßen/Bad Eilsen near Bückeburg, without injury to the crew. What was the W.Nr. of this a/c?

-an aircraft, reportedly a He219 A-1 (W.Nr. 2309 coded G9+AE) of Stab IV./NJG1 crashed at Cloppenburg following air combat with the loss of BF Ofw. Rudolf Müller. Is it correct that this was a He219? Or an Me210?


a Bf109 G-6 of 1./JG300 was assessed as 60% damaged in combat with a Halifax -what was the a/c's W.Nr. and where did it crash?

Cheers and thanks for any info,

Theo

retje 25th February 2018 15:51

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Quote:


-an aircraft, reportedly a He219 A-1 (W.Nr. 2309 coded G9+AE) of Stab IV./NJG1 crashed at Cloppenburg following air combat with the loss of BF Ofw. Rudolf Müller. Is it correct that this was a He219? Or an Me210?

Hello Theo,

this is a Me 210 W.-Nr.2309

Regards
René

Theo Boiten 25th February 2018 16:02

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Thanks for comfirming this one René!

(In Balss 1st ed. this was correctly listed as an Me210; in his revised 2nd ed it was listed as a He219, hence my confusion on this loss).

Cheers, Theo

Matti Salonen 25th February 2018 16:06

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
I have for Ju 88 A-4 of III/KG 3 WNr. 2559

Matti

Merlin 25th February 2018 16:08

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
The Ju 88A-4 was WNr. 2559 with 100% damage, no further details listed.

I have no matching Bf 109 loss for your data.

Theo Boiten 25th February 2018 16:32

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Cheers and thanks for your helpful replies Matti and Gerhard!

A final query perhaps on 8-9 October 1943:

What was the W.Nr. of a Bf110 G-4 of 1./NJG3 that was shot down NW of Essen/Oldenburg on this night?

Best regards, Theo

Matti Salonen 25th February 2018 16:54

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
5553

Matti

Theo Boiten 25th February 2018 16:59

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Brilliant Matti -thanks! Cheers, Theo

Rottler 25th February 2018 18:56

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Hello Theo,

in the Gen.Qu. loss reports are listed:

Report from 11 October 1943 and correction from 27 October 1943:
8.10. I./NJG 3 Feindflug Ort: nördlich Essen, Ursache: Bauchlandung infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß Bf 110 G-4 5533 75%
Bf Uffz Joachim Gießler verletzt.

Report from 14 October 1943:
8.10. I./JG 300 Heimatverlust Ort: Fl.Pl. Bonn-Hangelar, Ursache: Bedienungsfehler bei Landung Bf 109 G-6 27022 40%

Report from 14 October 1943:
9.10. III./KG 3 Feindflug Ort: bei Bückeburg, Ursache: Absturz infolge Flakbeschuß (Besatzung unverletzt) Ju 88 A-4 2559 100%

Regards
Leo

Rottler 25th February 2018 18:59

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Correction: I./NJG 3 Bf 110 G-4 Werknummer 5553.

Leo

Theo Boiten 25th February 2018 21:56

Re: Queries on three NJ losses III./KG3, IV./NJG1 and 1./JG300 8-9 October 1943
 
Thanks a lot Leo for providing these additional details.

Cheers, Theo


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