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Chris Goss 29th June 2018 13:45

Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Sorted out the later Dr Alfred Price's photos, I have found a photo of Walter Nowotny with pilots from this staffel named as Hans Kampfmeier (+), Werner Finke (+), Rolf Mondry and Alfred Motsch. Anyone know any more about them and their successes or not?

Nick Hector 29th June 2018 14:24

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 254068)
Sorted out the later Dr Alfred Price's photos, I have found a photo of Walter Nowotny with pilots from this staffel named as Hans Kampfmeier (+), Werner Finke (+), Rolf Mondry and Alfred Motsch. Anyone know any more about them and their successes or not?

Hi Chris,
Rolf Mondry sounds familiar from Don Caldwell's works on JG 26

Nick

Chris Goss 29th June 2018 14:27

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
That was Georg Mondry of 7 and then 5./JG 26 killed 31 May 1943

Nick Hector 29th June 2018 14:30

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 254073)
That was Georg Mondry of 7 and then 5./JG 26 killed 31 May 1943

Touche...

kaki3152 29th June 2018 15:30

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
These guys were Focke Wulf Test pilots. There is a good write up on these pilots in the book "Focke Wulf Ta-152" by Dietmar Harman.

Chris Goss 29th June 2018 15:40

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
So does it give fates or kills for them?

Matti Salonen 29th June 2018 15:48

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
1942-04-05, 7./JG 26, Fw 190 A-1, 110084, 8 weiße, Gravelines, 20 km ostnordöstlich Calais
Flugzeugführer Fw Mondry, Rolf, verletzt
Notlandung infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 100 %.

1944-03-08, Focke-Wulf-Flugzeugwerke Cottbus, Fw 190, Langenhagen
Flugzeugführer Ofw Mondry, Rolf, verletzt
Unbekannt. Bruch ? %.

1944-03-08, Focke-Wulf-Flugzeugwerke Langenhagen, Fw 190 A-5/U10, 150861, BP+LY, Fl.Pl. Hannover-Langenhagen
Flugzeugführer Ofw Kampmeier, Hans, verletzt
Bruchlandung infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 60 %.

1943-10-09, Focke-Wulf-Flugzeugwerke Langenhagen, Fw 190 A-4, 145631, 3 schw, Fl.Pl. Helgoland
Flugzeugführer Ofw Motsch, Alfred, verletzt
Überschlag bei Landung infolge technischer Mängel. Bruch 70 %.

Matti

Rottler 29th June 2018 15:59

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Hello Chris,

some additional informations about the pilots of the Industrieschutzstaffel Focke-Wulf Bremen:

Ofw Hans Kampmeier
One victory (B-17) on 28 July 1943. He survived the war.

Werner Finke
He died in a landing accident, date not known to me.

Ofw Rolf Mondry
One victory (B-17) on 8 October 1943, flying Fw 190 A-4 WNr. 5631 black 3.
On 9 March 1944 – attack of the 8th USAAF against airfield Langenhagen – he was wounded on the ground and lost one arm.

Sources:
JFV Vol.10/III
Investigations of Dietmar Hermann / JET & PROP 2/2006.

Regards
Leo

Chris Goss 29th June 2018 16:07

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Thanks Matti but according to Caldwell, that Mondry was Georg and the photo of him in the JG 26 War Diary bears no resemblance to the photo I have of him. Therefore the chap wounded 8 or 9 Mar 44 appears to match. The photo though does note that Kampmeier/Kampfmeier and Finke were killed. Nowotny is wearing the Schwerter so that dates the photo as late Summer 1943

Matti Salonen 29th June 2018 16:16

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According to NVMs Lt Georg Mondry, * 15 Dec 1921, of 5./JG 26 was killed on 31 May, 1943.
Fw Rolf Mondry, * 09 Dec 1917, of 7./JG 26 was wounded on 05 April, 1942 and again on 08 March 1944.
So, there were two Mondrys in JG 26.


No info found on their fate.


Matti



Matti

Chris Goss 29th June 2018 16:41

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Matti: Thanks for this. Looking at this, it would appear that Don Caldwell has got things wrong. Uffz Mondry was in 7./JG 26 in 1941 getting his first kill 16 Feb 41. The photos in his book is not the same as the photo I have of Mondry (he appears quite tall whilst in my photo is a good head shorter than everyone else). He then says Fw Georg Mondry was injured 5 April 1942 still with 7 Staffel. He then says on 31 May 43, Lt Rolf-Georg Mondry of 5./JG 26 was killed! VDK say Georg was killed near Mariakirche on 31 May 43. So Uffz Rolf Mondry 7 Staffel Lt Georg Mondry 5 Staffel

Stig Jarlevik 29th June 2018 22:38

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Also to follow this through with regard to Caldwell's mistake

There is a an Uffz Mondry making three claims with 7./JG 26 over Malta and Libya. I take it that this is now Rolf Mondry and not Georg as per Caldwell Vol 1

Cheers
Stig

Nick Hector 30th June 2018 05:58

Re: Industrie Schutz Staffel Focke Wulf
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 254098)
Also to follow this through with regard to Caldwell's mistake

There is a an Uffz Mondry making three claims with 7./JG 26 over Malta and Libya. I take it that this is now Rolf Mondry and not Georg as per Caldwell Vol 1

Cheers
Stig

Yes, that is the Mondry that sprang to mind when I read Chris' initial post. Now I realise we are actually talking about two separate pilots with the same unusual surname

Stig Jarlevik 30th June 2018 12:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Hector (Post 254108)
Yes, that is the Mondry that sprang to mind when I read Chris' initial post. Now I realise we are actually talking about two separate pilots with the same unusual surname

Well Nick

I also thought it was a strange co-incidence, so Caldwell's mistake is very explainable.
But then I did a "Nick Beale", I checked the yellow pages for Germany, and was quite surprised to see that there are plenty of Mondrys even today in Germany. I was not able to count how many, but since a constant scrolling only produced more and more, I gave up.:)

So perhaps the name Mondry was not all that rare after all during the war?

Also forgot to say thanks to Matti for putting this quite odd fact on our maps.

Cheers
Stig


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