Fw 190s from Alfred Price
 

Still sorting through his 1000s of photos-anyone seen these before? There are hundreds of Fw 190 photos and most are not annotated on the back

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Wow, a couple of great images there. Must be quite incredible sifting through this archive.

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Re photo # 1: I first spotted this photo (15+-), in Vol.3 of Dora Kurfurst und Rote 13/Karl Ries (1966). The caption reads: Auf einem Einsatzflug gegen Viermot-Verbande befindet sich diese FW 190A-8 der 6./JG 1. Der rumpf-Zusatztank wurde beim Luftkampf abgeworfen.

Col.

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Thanks Col. so many photos & 20% are captioned!

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I had no idea he had died, how did I miss that, love his books.

Btw Chris, in case you don't know Richard Wittmann passed away last year. I remember exchanging e mails about him re your Fighter bombers over Britain book a few years ago.

Re: Fw 190s from Alfred Price
 

Hello,

Re: Alfred Price: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=47931

Col

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Cheers, I have many of his books, his Hardest day and Battle over the Reich works are classics. A great author and by all accounts a nice bloke.

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As to Wittmann, there are hardly any left now

Re: Fw 190s from Alfred Price
 

Hi Chris,

For what it's worth, there appears to be a different photo of your second Fw 190 on p. 48 in Vol. 2 of Dora Kurfurst und Rote 13/Karl Ries (1964) which is wrongly captioned: Eine Kette FW 190 A-1 auf ihrem Liegeplatz im besetzten Frankreich. Beim vorderen Flugzeug (gelbe7) wird gerade der Motor abgebremst.

The black lightning motif seen behind the engine exhaust appears to be an incomplete rendition of "der stilisierte Adler" seen on the Fw 190 As of III./JG2 on p. 64 of Vol. 1 of the same series.

best regards,

Jim

Re: Fw 190s from Alfred Price
 

Why was the first photo (190 in flight) extensively retouched? Look closely, it's been seriously altered.

Bronc

Re: Fw 190s from Alfred Price
 

I would agree on the retouching but how does that compare to the copy in the 1966 boo?. No photoshop then!

Re: Fw 190s from Alfred Price
 

Hi Chris,

I would value the Colonel's opinion on this.

To my eye, your photo seems to be a different copy from the same negative.

Some observations:

1. Ries' photo p. 49 is cropped. Only the aircraft is visible so I cannot compare the lower background.

2. The ever so slightly lighter tone of greys in Ries' picture eliminate all clouds and give a solid looking sky as well as all but eliminating the third propeller blade. This suggests to me a different print.

3. The white dot in the "5" and all white negative imperfections are eliminated.

4. In your picture the outline of the aircraft and the demarcation lines between dark and light camo are more defined, suggesting a better quality photographic paper was used. Curiously, the visible propeller blades are better defined in Ries' photo.

best regards,

Jim

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http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....&pictureid=568

Attached is a digital photograph of a photograph that may simply be an over-enlargement of a small portion of a negative resulting in an image that is grainy and blurry.

Jim

Re: Fw 190s from Alfred Price
 

Nupe. Look carefully at the photo. The retractable step ladder is visibly extended in the down position. (The ladder automatically extends downward when the canopy opens, and retracts upward (and flush to the fuselage) when the canopy closes.) So in flight, with the canopy closed (always closed in flight with the Fw 190,) the ladder would not be visible like this.

The tail wheel is depicted as being retracted, but it's retracted in the wrong location. And the drop tank attachment is wonky and wrong too.

This photo appears to be a heavily doctored image.

Bronc