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kaki3152 15th November 2018 15:22

Crash Landed Hurricane
 
From German E-Bay. A crash landed Hurricane that the seller states is from 151 Sq w/ pilot PO Bush.
Observations. The code looks like SE or SF, which does not match up with 151 Sq. 151 Squadron used "DZ'" from 1939-1946

Welcome any comments.

Sorry, wrong forum.

gedburke3 15th November 2018 15:30

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Hi,
Could it be a 501 squadron hurricane?
They used SD on their hurricanes.
Gerry
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kaki3152 15th November 2018 16:18

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I thought of that but the last letter doesn't look like a "D"? Maybe the D has been partially altered due to the crash?

Graham Boak 15th November 2018 22:48

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SE was never a Hurricane code. SF was, but only on Mk.IVs, which this one isn't, and not in this time-scale. I'd go with SD.

SteveB 15th November 2018 23:02

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Is it not "SO" 145Sqn? They flew Hurricanes...
Steve

Stig Jarlevik 15th November 2018 23:18

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Kaki

I spontanously read SD code, and concluded it looks like a photo taken during the Battle of France.
501 Sq was in France while 145 Sq (SO) was not.
I also feel an O would be more rounded, but the photo angle (including rear damage) can play tricks, we have seen that before....

Not conclusive but my bet is on 501 Sq never-the-less :)

Cheers
Stig

kaki3152 16th November 2018 00:11

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ok, I will go with 501 Squadron. Maybe I can identify it further. It sure looks like a Battle of France Hurricane.

Andrei Demjanko 16th November 2018 00:15

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The problem with 501 Sqn version is that the serial number of SD-A is well known - L2045, and it seems that this aircraft was not shot down over France (from my notes, which could be incomplete). And 145 Sqn participated in combat over France flying from Britain. So I think this aircraft is SO-A of 145 Sqn

PMoz99 16th November 2018 01:03

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Perhaps someone can convince the seller to put the watermark in a different place to make the code a bit clearer ..........

Martin Gleeson 16th November 2018 04:01

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I am certain this is a 501 Squadron Hurricane, coded SD-A. I have seen several other photos of this wreck but none with the code - or serial - any better. 501 Squadron almost uniquely used very large letters as shown here. Do not forget that due to losses 501 Squadron used at least two 'SD-A's while stationed. It appears L2045 was the first SD-A due to the dates it was damaged plus the fact there was time for it to be returned to England. There is a photo of L2045 on page 320 of 'THE BATTLE OF FRANCE, THEN AND NOW' by Peter Cornwell. Very neat paintwork on that Hurricane as one might expect.

paulmcmillan 16th November 2018 08:26

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Metal or fabric wings ??

By damage i assume metal but would
Like expert opinion

Andrei Demjanko 16th November 2018 09:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Gleeson (Post 260769)
There is a photo of L2045 on page 320 of 'THE BATTLE OF FRANCE, THEN AND NOW' by Peter Cornwell.

Original IWM capition to that photo suggests it was taken during the final evacuation from France. If that statement is correct L2045 was the only SD-A during the Battle of France.
There is a photo of 145 Sqn aircraft taken by airman of that unit on page 310 in the The Battle of France Then and Now for comparison

paulmcmillan 16th November 2018 13:09

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http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...m-145-squadron

paulmcmillan 16th November 2018 13:15

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been here before?

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archiv...p?t-12774.html

paulmcmillan 16th November 2018 13:18

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PS I assume different photo than before but same aircraft but at least proves taken in France

Graham Boak 16th November 2018 23:33

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From the angle the photograph was taken, it should be possible to distinguish between the metal and fabric wings by the space between the centre-section/outer panel interface and the gunbay, there being one wing rib bay different. Sadly I don't recall which way it goes.

paulmcmillan 18th November 2018 15:10

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Alain on RAFCommands confirms that the Photo on the front of this thread is the same one that is referenced below

The photo from Hurricane SO-A from 145 sqdn who crashlanded at Alveringem Belgium on 27 may 1940 comes out the book " Mei 1940 Belgium " by Peter Taghon ISBN 9789020988628 published by www.lannoo.com in 2010

Stig Jarlevik 18th November 2018 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paulmcmillan (Post 260904)
Alain on RAFCommands confirms that the Photo on the front of this thread is the same one that is referenced below

The photo from Hurricane SO-A from 145 sqdn who crashlanded at Alveringem Belgium on 27 may 1940 comes out the book " Mei 1940 Belgium " by Peter Taghon ISBN 9789020988628 published by www.lannoo.com in 2010

Well Paul

A good remainder that I should not bet (repeated, not here, 100 times) :D

Indeed 145 Sq had an awful day loosing six Hurricanes in the Calais area on the 27th.

B Rgds
Stig

kaki3152 18th November 2018 18:11

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Thank you kind people for the ID


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