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Jukka Juutinen 5th January 2019 20:13

Percentage of female labour in German aircraft industry vs. others...
 
Any percentage figures on this topic Germany vs. Italy vs. U.S:A. vs. Britain vs. U.S.S.R vs. Japan? How did the figures compare e.g. in 1938, 1942, 1944?

Nick Beale 5th January 2019 21:07

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You may remember a related thread: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ghlight=female

VtwinVince 6th January 2019 21:10

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I think the Germans were slow to 'catch up' with Allied nations when it came to the employ of female labour. I know my grandmother was not forced into working at the Fieseler Werke until 1944.

edwest2 6th January 2019 22:01

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My mother was a foreign forced laborer in Germany for the duration of the war. Her country had ceased to exist. Young people were rounded up and put on train cars. There was a "supervisor" in each car. All she was told was that upon entering Germany, she would throw out her one allowed piece of luggage at a certain point, then she was told how and when to jump. The train would not stop, it would only slow down.

Snautzer 7th January 2019 14:37

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http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=598
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=599

Laurent Rizzotti 7th January 2019 15:08

Re: Percentage of female labour in German aircraft industry vs. others...
 
Good question. I remember reading that due to Nazi doctrine that the place of the women was at home raising children, Germany was slow to include women in its workforce, but I must say that every example I have seen with figures seem to show the contrary, like the above figure for BMW showing the part of women in the workforce going from 15% to 20% at its maximum peak, and only for German people. If you include foreign people, the percentage is almost flat, as the percentage of women in foreign workers and employees is inferior to the same in German ones.

edwest2 7th January 2019 18:19

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In some cases, foreign workers were not allowed. Sabotage was occurring, or the work was sensitive/secret. As far as German women, I don't think Nazi doctrine had anything to do with it. If her husband was in the military, who else would raise the children?

VtwinVince 7th January 2019 18:41

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Ed, what country are you referring to, that no longer exists? My mother-in-law is Norwegian, worked in Germany voluntarily during the war, and was not allowed to return home in 1945.

edwest2 7th January 2019 18:48

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This is the first time I am hearing about anyone volunteering to work in Germany during the war. I am referring to Poland which appeared on maps of the period as part of the Greater Reich.

For a time, the Arbeitsbuch for foreign workers was widely available. It had a photo, country of origin and so on.

Snautzer 7th January 2019 21:11

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A lot of people went working in Germany. Certainly in the early years. And i mean not at gunpoint. Good money and dont forget the very poor years just before the war. I must have a wartime documents with breakdowns of numbers of volontairy workers at some factories.

edwest2 7th January 2019 21:48

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Snautzer, the documents you posted were most helpful. Foreign workers were brought in because so many Germans of military service age were called up. Only those with certain skills were exempted.

Snautzer 7th January 2019 22:39

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"Arming the Luftwaffe The German Aviation Industry in World War II" Daniel Uziel chapter 4 gives a good account

Snautzer 8th January 2019 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 263289)
Snautzer, the documents you posted were most helpful. Foreign workers were brought in because so many Germans of military service age were called up. Only those with certain skills were exempted.

A lot of the skilled foreign worker i.g. french aviation workers did not go to the german aviation production factories. The problem got realley bad after the huge losses 1941. Even the protected skilled german workers would get called up for the wehrmacht at quite a scale. Even though women were drafted in most did not work full shifts.

Using mostly worker from the east, part of the problem was solved.

Nick Beale 8th January 2019 10:53

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Again, I recommend “The Wages of Destruction” by Adam Tooze, an extremly interesting book about the German war economy. Also worth reading is “Hitler’s Empire” by Mark Mazower which deals with the exploitation of the occupied territories. Both are in paperback.

Laurent Rizzotti 8th January 2019 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 263281)
This is the first time I am hearing about anyone volunteering to work in Germany during the war.

Ten of thousand of French people went to Germany voluntary for work, to the point that it was a real issue in 1945 to find who was a voluntary worker and who was a forced one when people returned to France. Not to speak of the high number of French, Belgian, Dutch and so on people who were paid to build the Atlantic Wall, V1 launch bases and so on, or to build/repair airfields used by the Luftwaffe. Most of them were not politically motivated, but just need a work for money.

Snautzer 23rd January 2019 13:06

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http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=606


Notice the absence of overall by 2 of the women.


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