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Fanair 15th January 2019 11:50

Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
please, do you have informations about the eventual use of Ju 88 by Lufthansa in WW 2 ?

Thank you very much

Alain

Snautzer 15th January 2019 12:11

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
https://www.flugzeugforum.de/threads...fthansa.77195/
"Dank der Hinweise und Informationen von Junkers-Peter wissen wir, dass es noch mehr Passagiermaschinen der Ju88 gab. So flogen bei der Lufthansa 1944/45 drei Junkers Ju88 S-3 als D-ASHJ „Panther", D-ASHK „Wolf" sowie D-ASHM „Jaguar" lost D-ASHM 22 april 45 Berlin Travemunde (verschollen)

Fanair 15th January 2019 17:16

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Thank you for your answer.

Stig Jarlevik 15th January 2019 17:18

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 263672)
https://www.flugzeugforum.de/threads...fthansa.77195/
"Dank der Hinweise und Informationen von Junkers-Peter wissen wir, dass es noch mehr Passagiermaschinen der Ju88 gab. So flogen bei der Lufthansa 1944/45 drei Junkers Ju88 S-3 als D-ASHJ „Panther", D-ASHK „Wolf" sowie D-ASHM „Jaguar"


lost D-ASHM 22 april 45 Berlin Travemunde (verschollen)

According to Günther Ott they were
WNr 331394 D-ASHJ
WNr 331397 D-ASHK
WNr 331402 D-ASHM
All three in use from Sep 1944 until the end of the war.
Is the loss of D.ASHM verified? Ott has no fate for any of the three listed.

Cheers
Stig

Snautzer 15th January 2019 21:41

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
[Stedinger] - Deutsche Lufthansa 1939-1945 - Der Kranich in Tubulenzen pg 188.

Stig Jarlevik 15th January 2019 23:07

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Thanks (and noted)

And I wonder what his source is...

Cheers
Stig

Snautzer 15th January 2019 23:28

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
As i am for the wrk nrs:-)

Stig Jarlevik 16th January 2019 09:53

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Indeed Snautzer, indeed

Ott's Lufthansa book is by no means "scientific", where we get treated with an endless number of footnotes listing sources for each and every detail.

However, I am quite familiar with Ott and his previous works and also his involvement with AGL and I trust what he states is not pure fiction.

"Your man" Stedinger is unknown to me, which makes me a bit more uncertain about his statements, hence my rather rethorical question (thinking out loud I guess). No intention by me to say that Stedinger's statement is wrong!

Cheers
Stig

Rasmussen 16th January 2019 09:59

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Stedinger Verlag is the publisher, Hans Werner Neulen is the author ...

Stig Jarlevik 16th January 2019 10:03

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasmussen (Post 263729)
Stedinger Verlag is the publisher, Hans Werner Neulen is the author ...

Aha

Well H-W Neulen is very familiar to me, and I have a few of his books, but not this one. As far as I can tell, he is not prone to guesswork either :)

Cheers
Stig

Snautzer 16th January 2019 10:20

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
there must be sources i guess. Combining type wrknr and name, we get for now:
  1. Lufthansa Ju88 S-3 WNr 331394 D-ASHJ „Panther"
  2. Lufthansa Ju88 S-3 WNr 331397 D-ASHK „Wolf"
  3. Lufthansa Ju88 S-3 WNr 331402 D-ASHM „Jaguar
Maybe Ednorth can trough in some thoughts on this

andreas_v 16th January 2019 14:48

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Hello!
The source for the information about Lufthansa's Ju 88 comes from the "Flugzeugverzeichnis Nr.53" (aircraftlist No.53) of the DHL, dated 5.März 1945. Faksimile of that list was published in Werner Bittner's "Die Lufthansa im Krieg-die Jahre 1939-1945", Volume 2

Stig Jarlevik 16th January 2019 15:02

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas_v (Post 263745)
Hello!
The source for the information about Lufthansa's Ju 88 comes from the "Flugzeugverzeichnis Nr.53" (aircraftlist No.53) of the DHL, dated 5.März 1945. Faksimile of that list was published in Werner Bittner's "Die Lufthansa im Krieg-die Jahre 1939-1945", Volume 2

Thanks

So now we know the details are correct.

Cheers
Stig

edNorth 16th January 2019 20:21

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 263732)
Maybe Ednorth can trough in some thoughts on this

"through in" "thoughts" humm.... If you go thrugh you are in at the same time. Yes, right. But cutting the ... english.

If I knew more, I possibly not tell.
As I don´t, I can. But see a possible fault .. (True or False).
So I do know. Also know of "others".
So I appear know more, but will say only this ...

DLH age 19 years (Jan 1926). About 2,7 lists per year.
(DLH formed 01.1926. List No. 53 - March 45).
One list every 4,4 months or so.
List No. 52 then was November 1944??
Does this list exist for confirmation?
Does it contain Ju 88´s?

Stig are "details that ere correct" which?

Ed "through in - now out!"
Not an attack or anything remotetly similar.

Stig Jarlevik 16th January 2019 20:27

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 263761)
Stig are "details that ere correct" which?

The WNr vs registrations

Cheers
Stig

edNorth 16th January 2019 20:42

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Not seen any "confirmation" but possibly someone can forward this.
And now this happened. So "likely confirmed" but so far only based on one doc from above mentioned book.

Snautzer 16th January 2019 21:34

Re: Ju 88 In lufthansa service
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 263761)
"through in" "thoughts" humm.... If you go thrugh you are in at the same time. Yes, right. But cutting the ... english.

"
Not an attack or anything remotetly similar.


My only excuse is my phone is sometimes creating words that do not exist and i do not use a spellings checker. But thank you for the lesson and the answer.


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