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Robert Forsyth 12th February 2019 14:51

Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Forthcoming from my good friend, Dr Brett Gooden, after many years work!

https://www.nattermannedmissile.com

edwest2 12th February 2019 18:32

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Thank you, Mr. Forsyth. My own efforts to investigate this and other matters led to no response from the Draeger company. Some material did appear after the war, most notably the two volume German Aviation Medicine published and produced by the Department Of The Air Force, 1950.

Best,
Ed West

Jukka Juutinen 12th February 2019 18:38

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Is the book available already?

FalkeEins 12th February 2019 19:04

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
.. not until June according to distributors Bookworld

Robert Forsyth 12th February 2019 22:19

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Thanks, Ed, I'll pass your msg to Dr. Gooden.

Yes, hope to see the book some time in June.

edwest2 12th February 2019 22:26

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
You're welcome, Robert.

Jukka Juutinen 13th February 2019 11:14

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Perhaps Gooden might add some sample pages on the site once possible.

Dénes Bernád 13th February 2019 15:34

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Just saw the book's extent: ca 500 pages, ca 870 illustrations
I am wondering how on Earth it's possible to assemble 870 illustrations of this very short lived project? It looks like an outstanding achievement.

edwest2 13th February 2019 18:23

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
I am hoping for more information about the development of German high pressure, or full pressure suits. And the extent of German knowledge of spaceflight. Hints and information are given in other books, but I would like to see some additional information.

bearoutwest 14th February 2019 04:48

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
So, is this an expansion on the work Brett Gooden presented in the Classic Publications volume "Projekt Natter"?
...geoff

Col Bruggy 14th February 2019 07:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bearoutwest (Post 265026)
So, is this an expansion on the work Brett Gooden presented in the Classic Publications volume "Projekt Natter"?
...geoff

Hello,

Read the author's biogrphical comments:

https:www.nattermannedmissile.com/about-the-author/

Col.

bearoutwest 14th February 2019 14:29

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Thanks Col.
The website's still a bit of a tease as it gives no real details! Just lots of potential. I have his Classic Publications volume, and it's an interesting read though, understandably, a little sparse on some details - hence his comment of "....raising more questions than answers", I suppose.
Hopefully, a table of contents and perhaps some preview pages (thru google-books or Amazon perhaps) might be presented closer to publication date.

...geoff

edwest2 14th February 2019 18:55

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Unless this book is a limited printing, I suggest putting it up on amazon.co.uk
However, I can also understand why this may not be desirable.

Nick Beale 15th February 2019 18:57

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád (Post 265000)
Just saw the book's extent: ca 500 pages, ca 870 illustrations
I am wondering how on Earth it's possible to assemble 870 illustrations of this very short lived project? It looks like an outstanding achievement.

It's almost a rule: "the fewer they built, the bigger the book".

edwest2 15th February 2019 19:15

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Nick,

I am hoping for much more than that. Especially in light of the fact that the previous book by Dr. Gooden, Projekt Natter, was 144 pages. That book is now selling for $200 and up on the secondary market.

Best,
Ed

edwest2 21st June 2019 21:57

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Update and I do fault the related web site for not giving a day date.
"Update: our printers advise that ‘Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich’ is being despatched and the bulk delivery should arrive in the UK warehouse next week. Our distributors will then be shipping pre-orders."
Based on my reading of a previous note, the books should start shipping on Monday.

Alfred.MONZAT 3rd July 2019 14:35

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Already sold out... Anyone here got a copy?

Nick Beale 3rd July 2019 17:07

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred.MONZAT (Post 271299)
Already sold out... Anyone here got a copy?

It looks as if you can still get it at the Duxford Show: https://www.aviation-bookshop.com/hub.htm

Also it's listed on the shop's new releases pages.

edwest2 3rd July 2019 18:18

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I would like to see a properly written review.

Ed

Alfred.MONZAT 4th July 2019 14:02

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"Important Message from the Author/Publisher
Firstly I would like to thank all those who have already purchased a copy of my book ‘Natter. Manned Missile of the Third Reich’. I hope it has lived up to your expectations.
Due to the unexpected and overwhelming demand for the book the sole distributor Bookworld Wholesalers have advised that the first printing has almost sold out.
As readers who have seen the book will appreciate, this has been an expensive book to self-publish.
However I would seriously consider a further reprint if the number of further orders justified it.
So if you would like a copy please submit your order to Bookworld Wholesalers”.
Dr Brett Gooden"
Source: https://www.facebook.com/Ba349/photo...5704931652917/

edwest2 5th August 2019 18:24

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Strangely, Christian Schmidt has this book as coming soon.


http://www.christian-schmidt.com/pro...ducts_id=10520


Perhaps someone should contact Dr. Gooden.




Ed

Col Bruggy 9th August 2019 17:16

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Hello,

The book has officially sold out.

I obtained an author-signed copy per The Aviation Bookshop (UK), (Thanks Justin and the team).

This is not a book to have and to hold - it weighs a ton (the delivery carton weighed in at 4.1 kgs)! It needs to be handled with care and read on a flat surface, with adequate support.

The book is superb. The production values are first-class - binding, paper and illustrations are superlative. There is an extensive notes section, and a comprehensive index.

Personally, the information on Erich Bachem and Lothar Sieber was most revealing (there are even copies of Sieber's will, and his death certificate).

I'll leave it to others more competent than myself to comment on the technical side of the Natter.

Money well spent!

Col.

FalkeEins 9th August 2019 18:17

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Col Bruggy (Post 272872)
Hello,

The book has officially sold out.

..a 'limited' reprint is going ahead for September (author's message on FB)

edwest2 9th August 2019 19:43

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Good news.


Ed

Oliver G. 19th August 2019 23:40

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Hello all,

I am one of the guys who helped Dr. Brett Gooden over the last years to investigate some aspects of the Natter and its story. From my point of view this book is by far the best and most information you can get about the Natter project, its technology as well as the story of some people who were involved in its production and trials.

As well as the story behind the Natter did not end in 1945. What happend with the last pattern captured by the Alliies? What has survived till today? Why this project was that trendsetting and has affected the human space flight? And why are two engineers interested in rebuild a life-size model of this wooden intercepter?

Of course it is a heavy beast and not a book for somebody who wants just beautiful pictures. It includes some technical and medical aspects as well as information of the Draeger systems (a guy has asked about it). We managed to get a lot of pictures, drawings and letters from the past and now to put in this book. We did som interviews with the last contemporary witnesses and visited some archives.

It has its price, but somebody who is into military- or aviation books, it is still worth to have a copy.

What I know of the book seller in Britain, aviation-bookshop.com, the book is out of printing, but they have limited copies (July 2019). Brett Gooden told me, there is still a second printing in process which will be available in the next weeks.

Still available in Germany at - Berliner Zinnfigurenkabinett and Christian Schmid, Munich.

If you have any questions about the book or the Natter itself, I try to answer it, in the best way I can.

Oliver

edwest2 26th February 2020 21:09

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
A limited number will be shipped in March by the following company and they recommend ordering now.

https://www.rzm.com/books/cpl/cpl2137.cfm

Usual disclaimer,
Ed

etraro 28th February 2020 17:18

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
According to RZM, it's a new revised edition. I'd like to know what's revised?

Jukka Juutinen 28th February 2020 17:30

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
As far as I know, the new edition has laminated covers without a dust jacket...

edwest2 28th February 2020 18:19

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
For those who don't want or cannot place a phone call due to cost and/or time differences, send RZM an email.


Ed

Jukka Juutinen 28th February 2020 19:10

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Ed, why should anyone call RZM for the information can be found on Brett Gooden's website already???

edwest2 29th February 2020 01:39

Re: Natter: Manned Missile of the Third Reich
 
Some people don't know what you know.


Best,
Ed


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